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From Arved Sandstrom <Arved...@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject RE: toward reunification
Date Thu, 24 Apr 2003 04:34:57 GMT
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Clay Leeds [mailto:cleeds@medata.com]
> Sent: April 23, 2003 6:49 PM
> To: fop-dev@xml.apache.org
> Subject: Re: toward reunification
> Whoa there. I just want to get clear here.
> Arved Sandstrom wrote:
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Victor Mote [mailto:vic@outfitr.com]
> >>Sent: April 23, 2003 3:11 PM
> >>To: fop-dev@xml.apache.org
> >>Subject: RE: toward reunification
> >
> >>Jeremias Maerki wrote:
> >
> > [ SNIP ]
> >
> >>>It all comes down to our resource problem. :-(
> >>
> >>Our resource problem is self-inflicted. We made some bad
> choices along the
> >>way. Right now the success or failure of this project hinges on Keiron's
> >>ability to either get the layout done himself or help us help him get it
> >>done. If Jeremias and Joerg don't know how to get productive in
> the trunk
> >>layout code, we will never, NEVER (yes, I am shouting a bit) get
> >>anyone else
> >>to. If you count me as .05, we have 2.05 developers ready,
> >>willing, and able
> >>to help punch this thing forward. Keiron, can you show us where
> to start?
> >
> > So, let us be bold. (I say "us", because I have recently started a
> > consulting business, and have some time. :-))
> >
> > I would say *shut down* the maintenance branch. Leave the
> version as it is,
> > try to answer users' questions, but stop doing any coding on
> it. Let people
> > use FOP as it is, for the moment.
> Some of us are using the maintenance branch. Perhaps I'm just confused
> not understanding and blinded by my desire to start playing with
> 0.20.5rc3 (not to mention 0.20.5). I've been waiting since mid-March for
> the fabled 0.20.5rc3, since the current "Release Candidate" is not
> useful to me (http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=17472).
> As long as you're/we're saying "Let's stop development on the
> Maintenance Branch *after* 0.20.5 is released, then I'm in total
> agreement. However, if you're/we're saying "Let's stop work on the
> maintenance branch immediately, then the message of earlier today RE:
> not using FOP because it's about to be abandoned takes on different
> meaning for me.
> We've (my company) been waiting for v0.20.5 since before 0.20.5rc was
> released 10-Dec-2002 08:50. I'm foaming at the mouth for the thing, can
> you tell? Hopefully, I'm misunderstanding things here, and we're not
> really talking about *shutting down* the maintenance branch before the
> release of 0.20.5...

I understand you. I know there are things that have been promised to users
in the near-term; it's only right to get that out the door.

*Everybody* is using the maintenance branch. :-)

I am in total agreement with what you just said, and I should have been more
clear in my earlier post.


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