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From "Thomas Schaeck" <SCHA...@de.ibm.com>
Subject RE: Server side discussion
Date Tue, 15 Jan 2002 17:24:45 GMT
When a company posts a JSR, all companies or individuals who are involved
in the JCP can join the expert group for the JSR. Indeed, several companies
have already joined the JSR 162 expert group.

Sun and others could also have joined the expert group of the first Portlet
API JSR and have contributed their ideas there rather than starting a
second JSR on the same topic.

Best regards,


Thomas Schaeck
Architect, WebSphere Portal Server
IBM Pervasive Computing Division
Phone: +49-(0)7031-16-3479   Mobile: +49-(0)171-6928407   e-mail:
schaeck@de.ibm.com   Fax: +49-(0)7031-16-4888
Address: IBM Deutschland Entwicklung GmbH, Schoenaicher Str. 220, 71032
Boeblingen, Germany

"Ming Fai" <mingfai@hongkong.com> on 01/15/2002 05:11:48 PM

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To:   "Jetspeed Developers List" <jetspeed-dev@jakarta.apache.org>
Subject:  RE: Server side discussion

I've been with Jetspeed for some months already and I think I know it quite
well. it seems to me most ppl at that forum do not know much about portlets
and portal server. it's somehow a waste of time to read their message.

but they've made one sounding point - a jcp spec should have the support of
the majority of vendors. I'm not sure but I feel it is like, IBM come out
propose a spec, and then the other vendors do not like it and come out with
a counter proposal. Has IBM invited all the other vendors in the first jsr?
Has Sun invited IBM when proposing the 2nd jsr? Why jcp allow two jsr with
the same (or at least, v similar) nature? (if my above 'assumption' is
correct) Such childish practice does harm the Java community!


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Santiago Gala [mailto:sgala@hisitech.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:19 PM
> To: Jetspeed Developers List
> Subject: Re: Server side discussion
> David Sean Taylor wrote:
> >Interesting little discussion going on at ServerSide.com :
> >
> >http://www.theserverside.com/home/thread.jsp?thread_id=11106
> >
> I'm just reading jsr 167. For those not informed, a different jsr for
> Portlet API has been presented, with support from a lot of companies.
> I imagine (I stress it is My Opinion, no hidden knowledge) that both
> proposals should be merged, or either retired. I think a Proposal for a
> standard with companies like BEA, Epicentric, Sybase, ... , merged with
> IBM proposal, could set the scenario for a standard.
> I will post later, when I know more about the new proposal. This is
> beginning to get interesting indeed ;)
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