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From James Taylor <>
Subject Re: Large tables in phoenix, issues with relational queries
Date Thu, 22 Feb 2018 06:11:18 GMT
Hi Aman,
Will all of your 210 relational tables only have a few millions rows? If
so, have you tried just using something like MySQL? What led you toward a
distributed solution?

When going from a single node RDBMS system to Phoenix, you typically
wouldn't use the schemas directly, but there'd be some amount of
denormalization. Have you seen our Tuning Guide [1]? You'll likely want to
determine the best row key design and minimum number of secondary indexes
to satisfy your most common questions.

More specifically with joins [2], you have to be careful as the Phoenix
optimizer will attempt to do join ordering or figure out the best join
strategy (note there's on going work to improve this with PHOENIX-1556).
Instead, you'll need to you'll need to make sure to list your tables from
largest to smallest (the size after filtering). Also, Phoenix has two join
strategies - hash join and sort merge join. By default, Phoenix will
perform a hash join, but you can use the /*+ USE_SORT_MERGE_JOIN */ hint to
force a sort merge join. The sort merge join will be better if the tables
are already ordered by their join key. If your Report Framework use case is
doing many joins, you'd likely want to add secondary indexes that ensure
that one or both sides are ordered according how you're joining the tables.

Sorry for only providing very general information, but without more
specifics, it's difficult to provide more specific guidance.



On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 12:11 AM, Aman Kumar Jha <> wrote:

> Phoenix Team,
> We are using Apache Phoenix on our Reporting Framework that we are
> building , and are facing a lot of challenges with it.  (majorly
> performance challenges). We are severely constrained on Apache Phoenix
> knowledge and would love your help to find someone who can help us get off
> the ground here.
> Our use case is, about 210 relational tables (a few million row in many of
> these tables) are present inside our DB and our reporting framework sits on
> top of the same. Due to many relational tables, the reports mostly result
> in large queries, with multiple joins (mostly left outer). This we think is
> the root cause of most of our problems. A lot of internet searches, get us
> the basics back easily, but we are not getting anything deeper, so that we
> can tune this further.
> At this point, we are really thinking, if Phoenix is the correct choice of
>  technology for the above use case.
> As mentioned earlier, we need help with finding someone who can help us
> move ahead.
> Thanks a lot for your time.
> Regards,
> Aman Kumar Jha
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