incubator-general mailing list archives

Site index · List index
Message view « Date » · « Thread »
Top « Date » · « Thread »
From "John D. Ament" <johndam...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni 2.0.0
Date Mon, 14 Jun 2021 12:23:57 GMT
Hi

On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 8:16 AM Antoine Toulme <antoine@toulme.name> wrote:

>
>
> > On Jun 14, 2021, at 14:10, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> >> On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 6:41 AM Antoine Toulme <antoine@toulme.name>
> wrote:
> >> OK clearly I don’t get it. This code has been there since day 1 of the
> >> project in our repo and in good standing.
> >> Because someone on the Internet copied the defunct project prior to
> >> donation in no way warrants this release to receive a -1, 3 years after
> the
> >> donation and multiple releases out!
> >
> > This is where we ask for patience from all.
> > Things may be missed in
> > releases.  We assume on good faith that the code being donated can be
> > donated.  When we find something that shouldn't have actual been donated
> it
> > needs to be called out.  At the same time, we may miss some things.  In
> > this case, I'm guessing Justin is just being cautious that there could be
> > other things included that shouldn't have been included and needs a more
> > coarse review.
> >
> > FWI, the mikuli package is Apache licensed in its origin, so it doesn't
> > actually violate any of our rules.  Listing them in NOTICE is optional
> but
> > considered a best practice, since they have no NOTICE themselves.  You
> > should remove the Apache header since it shouldn't have been donated to
> us
> > (unless they have signed an SGA since).
>
> Again, no. This code was part of the donation to the ASF. Someone took the
> defunct code of the original project and copied it to a different project.
>

This is where the disconnect is.  The grant assumes that the grantor is the
original author of the code/work.  If the grantor is not, the SGA/ICLA (or
whatever was used to donate Tuweni) is not valid for those files.


> >
> > For the sodium package, I can't tell if it's self built by Tuweni or
> > something imported from elsewhere as well.  Most of what I see from
> > sodium-friends is MIT licensed, so it would not be correct to relicense
> it
> > under Apache license if it was in fact imported from there (I can't find
> it
> > in there though).
>
> This is definitely our code. Git blame if you like.
>

Perfect, thank you.


> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >>> On Jun 14, 2021, at 12:30 PM, Justin Mclean <justin@classsoftware.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>> That’s not the right solution. They copied code from the original
> >> project to a separate project before it was donated to the ASF. This has
> >> nothing to do with Tuweni.
> >>> I'st one solution. Tuweni can, I’m sure come up with other possible
> ways
> >> of dealing with this. IMO It is an issue for the project as Tuweni has
> >> (though no fault of it own) ended up with 3rd party code incorrectly
> >> labeled with ASF headers.
> >>>> If anything, that project might need to set itself to compliance.
> >>> Sure, and you might what to pass the information on to them, but that
> is
> >> a seperate issue to Tuweni's compliance of ASF policy around IP
> clearance
> >> and licensing.
> >>>> We use the .h file and a script to generate a first pass, and then we
> >> do heavy editing. It’s our code alright.
> >>> That may not make it your code, I suggest you ask on legal discuss.
> >>> Kind Regards,
> >>> Justin
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
> >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
>
>

Mime
  • Unnamed multipart/alternative (inline, None, 0 bytes)
View raw message