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From "zhangliang@apache.org" <zhangli...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal of Shenyu
Date Sun, 18 Apr 2021 14:50:49 GMT
Hi, I have a question about IP clearance.
ShenYu project is come from Dromara community which is not the
official company, it is difficult to sign the SGA.
The developers of Dromara community come from multiple companies and maybe
develop the codes during working hours, they may not sign any grant
agreement before commit.
How to provide the grant agreements for this case when the project will
graduate? Is it enough to sign the ICLA for every initial committers?

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Sincerely,
Liang Zhang (John)
Apache ShardingSphere


Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com> 于2021年4月18日周日 下午2:41写道:

> Thanks, Duo.
> Look forward to a better version of their proposal.
>
> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
> 张铎(Duo Zhang) <palomino219@gmail.com> 于2021年4月18日周日 下午12:11写道:
> >
> > Thanks Willem for clarifying.
> >
> > As long as the community status is not important when joining incubtor(it
> > is important when graduating), and there are some concerns, let's remove
> > the sensitive words such as 'diverse' in the proposal, just mention that
> > the project is already open sourced and has an initial community, so we
> do
> > not need to argue on this any more.
> > And lack of English skill is a problem. Talking with the project leaders,
> > they need to use google translate a lot when the topic is not about tech,
> > so it is easy for them to be misunderstood.
> >
> > So let's focus on the problems which must be solved before joining the
> > incubator. I think the initial committer candidate is a problem and I saw
> > the project leaders have already started to solve it.
> >
> > And also, I agree with Willem that, joining incubator does not mean
> > endorsement from ASF and the mentors about technology. We just want to
> help
> > the project to build the community in Apache way in the future.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Willem Jiang <willem.jiang@gmail.com> 于2021年4月17日周六 下午11:08写道:
> >
> > > After having some talk with the project leaders, we will start a
> > > discussion in the dromara community to make a clear initial committer
> > > choosing standard.
> > > Then we will update the initial committer list by asking the selected
> > > committer if they want to join as the initial committer.
> > >
> > > BTW, to be more clear,  the incubating evaluation process only runs
> > > some checks on project branding, IP clearance and community related
> > > issues.
> > > There is no endorsement of the project's technology from Apache or the
> > > mentor side if the project is accepted by Apache Incubator.
> > >
> > > Willem Jiang
> > >
> > > Twitter: willemjiang
> > > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> > >
> > > On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 7:36 AM Justin Mclean <
> justin@classsoftware.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > >> We have make the election criterion of initial committer:
> continuously
> > > > >> contribute for the last one year, code of lines over 3000, commits
> > > over 15.
> > > >
> > > > While not as high as some TLP this seems a little too high to me. A
> year
> > > is a long time for someone to hang about on the chance they become a
> > > committer. They will probably make your incubation journey longer. It’s
> > > also important to remember that people should b able to become
> committers
> > > by not contributing code but by helping out in other ways, in
> particular
> > > anything to do with community building.
> > > >
> > > > >> So Yonglun Zhang, Jinwei Qin and Lei Zhang will be removed from
> the
> > > > >> committers list.
> > > >
> > > > There is no real harm is having more initial committers. The PMC /
> > > committer list can be refined at graduation and people who have not
> made
> > > contributions removed.
> > > >
> > > > >> During 2020-11~2020-12, we held source code sharing events.
> > > >
> > > > Who was involved in the organisation f these events, I hope they are
> on
> > > the initial committer list.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Justin
> > > >
> > > >
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