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From Andy Grove <andygrov...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Looking for guidance on IP clearance process for donation to Apache Arrow
Date Sat, 03 Apr 2021 15:22:27 GMT
Thanks for that advice, Craig.

I have gone ahead and created
https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/arrow-rust-ballista.html in
preparation for the vote and I have a couple more questions now:

1. The trademark search did find other software products using the name
Ballista as a registered trademark. What are the implications of this? Will
I need to remove use of that name from the PR before proceeding to a vote?

2. What do I do about the checklist item "Check that all active committers
have a signed CLA on record"? Do I go ahead and put a date against it and
add additional text stating that not all contributors have submitted a CLA?

Thanks,

Andy.

On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 6:32 PM Craig Russell <apache.clr@gmail.com> wrote:

> This is just my opinion; others may have different ideas.
>
> I'm considering that the project is licensed under the terms of the Apache
> License, v2.0 and I'm assuming that the contributors knew that when they
> made their contributions.
>
> I'd continue to try to obtain ICLAs from the other contributors (not just
> the 5 with >1 commit but all of them).
>
> I'd guess that you won't get every single contributor to file an ICLA but
> it's probably ok to continue to a vote.
>
> The only risk that I see is one of the contributors later has a change of
> mind, decides that they didn't understand that this is an open source
> project intended to be licensed under the terms of the ALv2.0 and then
> complains. At that point, the project might decide that they need to
> rewrite the contributor's code in order to remove the nuisance.
>
> So I'd say to go ahead and expect that the contributors who fail to submit
> an ICLA are just not interested and will fade into history without any
> trouble.
>
> Regards,
> Craig
>
> > On Mar 30, 2021, at 7:31 AM, Andy Grove <andygrove73@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, Dave.
> >
> > To give an update on the situation, out of the 12 committers with > 1
> > commit, we have ICLAs submitted or already on file for 7 of those,
> > including all the contributors that I would consider key to the project.
> I
> > have been unable to get any response from the other 5 so far.
> >
> > Based on this, should I consider moving to a vote now or wait and see if
> I
> > can get more signed ICLAs?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Andy.
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 10:00 AM Dave Fisher <wave4dave@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi -
> >>
> >> Since this is Andy’s project under the Apache License then I’m not sure
> >> that other’s ICLA matters. But ...
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Mar 25, 2021, at 8:25 AM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Andy
> >>>
> >>> Typically you would look at the top contributors and aim for ICLAs from
> >>> those.  Don't forget you have to have a vote here as well when done!
> >>>
> >>> I would aim for these individuals:
> >>>
> >>> 231  Andy Grove
> >>> 27  Ximo Guanter
> >>> 7  QP Hou
> >>> 6  Boaz Berman
> >>> 5  Daniël Heres
> >>> 4  Jack Chan
> >>> 4  Patrick More
> >>> 3  Ben Cohen
> >>> 3  Hendrik Makait
> >>> 3  Jorge Leitao
> >>> 2  Hamish Nicholson
> >>> 2  Tanapol Prucksakorn
> >>
> >> I would look more into the nature of these commits. Who would you ask to
> >> be a committer?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Dave
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> John
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 10:18 AM Andy Grove <andygrove73@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> The Apache Arrow PMC has passed a vote to accept the donation of the
> >>>> Ballista project [1].
> >>>>
> >>>> The donation contains code from ~30 contributors and it may not be
> >> possible
> >>>> to obtain ICLAs from all of them. If this does turn out to be the
> >>>> situation, what steps can we take instead?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> Andy.
> >>>>
> >>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/arrow/pull/9723
> >>>>
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>
> Craig L Russell
> clr@apache.org
>
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