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From Jean-Baptiste Onofre ...@nanthrax.net>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] YunionCloud Proposal
Date Fri, 16 Apr 2021 14:49:38 GMT
Agree with Willem: you won’t pass the name search if we have "conflict" with existing company
or project names.

Regards
JB

> Le 16 avr. 2021 à 15:35, Willem Jiang <willem.jiang@gmail.com> a écrit :
> 
> The literal translation "壹云" means "One Cloud".
> Maybe we need to think of a totally different name to avoid the
> conflict with the company name.
> 
> 
> Willem Jiang
> 
> Twitter: willemjiang
> Weibo: 姜宁willem
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 2:57 AM Dave Fisher <wave@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>> It’s cute, but it also incorporates the name of the donating corporation:
>> 
>> From the footer of yunion.cn
>> 
>> 北京云联壹云技术有限公司京ICP备2021005745号-2
>> With Google Translate gives:
>> Beijing Yunlian One Cloud Technology Co., Ltd. Beijing ICP No. 2021005745-2
>> 
>> It’s critical that Apache Projects be independent of any one company.
>> 
>> For those members from China am I getting distracted by translation?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>>> On Apr 15, 2021, at 11:16 AM, Jian Qiu <swordqiu@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Great! How about we use UniOneCloud instead of UnioneCloud as the project
>>> name?
>>> 
>>> It seems easy to distinguish between UniOneCloud and UnionCloud visually.
>>> :-) @Tedd
>>> 
>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb@nanthrax.net> 于2021年4月16日周五 上午12:15写道:
>>> 
>>>> It sounds good indeed.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> JB
>>>> 
>>>>> Le 15 avr. 2021 à 18:12, KimmKing <kimmking@apache.org> a écrit
:
>>>>> 
>>>>> UniOneCloud, it's a wonderfull name.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kimm King(kimmking@apache.org/kimmking@163.com)
>>>>> Apache Dubbo PMC & ShardingSphere PMC Member
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> At 2021-04-15 16:23:14, "Jian Qiu" <swordqiu@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi, Sebb, we will reconsider the candidate project name.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> 于2021年4月14日周三 下午10:39写道:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Although there are no matches for UnioneCloud, there is a match
for
>>>>>>> UnionCloud.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Their owner might consider UnioneCloud to be confusingly similar.
>>>>>>> And future searchers for UnioneCloud may be directed to UnionCloud.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> S.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 at 13:22, Jian Qiu <swordqiu@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi, Daniel,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> UnioneCloud = UniOneCloud, stands for  'Unify multiclouds
into One
>>>> Cloud'
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Daniel Gruno <humbedooh@apache.org> 于2021年4月14日周三
下午7:49写道:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 14/04/2021 09.06, Jian Qiu wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Dave,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> When we decide to donate project to Apache Incubator,
we consider
>>>>>>> several
>>>>>>>>>> candidate names and make a vote in our community,
the results are
>>>>>>>>>> as follows:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> * YunionCloud - a cloud union of Clouds, 26 vote
>>>>>>>>>> * UnioneCloud - to unify many clouds into One Cloud,
10 vote
>>>>>>>>>> * OpenYunion -  open source Cloud Union, 5 vote
>>>>>>>>>> * OpenMHCP - open source Multi/Hybrid Cloud Platform,
2 vote
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> So we decided to choose YunionCloud as the new name.
But we did not
>>>>>>>>>> realize it conflicted with our company domain name.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> As you suggested, we would like to consider UnioneCloud
as the
>>>>>>> project
>>>>>>>>> name.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Would you consider UnioneCloud an appropriate project
name?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> What does the E in UnioneCloud signify? I must confess
I find it
>>>>>>>>> distracting that there is what appears to the average
reader as a
>>>> typo,
>>>>>>>>> but if there is a reason you did not pick UnionCloud,
I'd be happy to
>>>>>>>>> hear it :)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Jian Qiu
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Willem Jiang <willem.jiang@gmail.com> 于2021年4月14日周三
上午9:47写道:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I understand your concern. Actually,  I had a
long discussion with
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> team about the project name, but I missed that
the company's domain
>>>>>>>>>>> name has a close relationship with the project
name.
>>>>>>>>>>> Now the development team is working on finding
a new name for it.
>>>>>>> We
>>>>>>>>>>> will come back with a new project name for this
proposal.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Willem Jiang
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: willemjiang
>>>>>>>>>>> Weibo: 姜宁willem
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 1:26 PM Dave Fisher <wave@apache.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> This looks like an interesting project.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> My concern is that the donation comes from
https://www.yunion.cn
>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>> has a similar name to the podling and that might
cause trademark
>>>>>>>>> confusion.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 11, 2021, at 9:40 PM, Jian Qiu
<swordqiu@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We would like to propose YunionCloud
as a new Apache Incubator
>>>>>>>>> project.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> YunionCloud is a unified multi-cloud/hybrid-cloud
management
>>>>>>> platform.
>>>>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is an IaaS platform capable of managing
on-premise resources,
>>>>>>>>> including
>>>>>>>>>>>>> virtual machines and BareMetals. Further,
it is extended to
>>>> manage
>>>>>>>>>>>>> resources from other cloud platforms,
including public and
>>>> private
>>>>>>>>>>> cloud
>>>>>>>>>>>>> providers. It provides consistent APIs
and Web UI to access
>>>>>>>>>>> heterogeneous
>>>>>>>>>>>>> resources from multi-cloud/hybrid-cloud.
The platform is
>>>>>>> implemented
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Golang, portable and lightweight, and
can be deployed in
>>>>>>> Kubernetes
>>>>>>>>>>>>> clusters.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The proposal can be found at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/YunionCloud++Proposal
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The project has been open-sourced since
March 2019 at GitHub
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/yunionio/yunioncloud
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The project used to be called OneCloud,
but we are in the process
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> changing the name to YunionCloud to avoid
potential trademark
>>>>>>>>>>> conflicts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks to Willem Jiang as our champion
and mentor to guide
>>>>>>> us to
>>>>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>>>>>>> up this proposal. We still need 2-3 mentors
to set us on the
>>>>>>> track. If
>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are interested, please kindly let me
know. Besides, we are eager
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> hear
>>>>>>>>>>>>> any of your thoughts on this project.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to your feedback and
thank you for your time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jian Qiu, Co-found of YunionCloud
>>>>>>>>>>>>> swordqiu@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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