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From Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] YunionCloud Proposal
Date Thu, 15 Apr 2021 18:57:28 GMT
It’s cute, but it also incorporates the name of the donating corporation:

From the footer of yunion.cn

北京云联壹云技术有限公司京ICP备2021005745号-2
With Google Translate gives:
Beijing Yunlian One Cloud Technology Co., Ltd. Beijing ICP No. 2021005745-2

It’s critical that Apache Projects be independent of any one company.

For those members from China am I getting distracted by translation?

Regards,
Dave

> On Apr 15, 2021, at 11:16 AM, Jian Qiu <swordqiu@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Great! How about we use UniOneCloud instead of UnioneCloud as the project
> name?
> 
> It seems easy to distinguish between UniOneCloud and UnionCloud visually.
> :-) @Tedd
> 
> Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb@nanthrax.net> 于2021年4月16日周五 上午12:15写道:
> 
>> It sounds good indeed.
>> 
>> Regards
>> JB
>> 
>>> Le 15 avr. 2021 à 18:12, KimmKing <kimmking@apache.org> a écrit :
>>> 
>>> UniOneCloud, it's a wonderfull name.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> Kimm King(kimmking@apache.org/kimmking@163.com)
>>> Apache Dubbo PMC & ShardingSphere PMC Member
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> At 2021-04-15 16:23:14, "Jian Qiu" <swordqiu@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi, Sebb, we will reconsider the candidate project name.
>>>> 
>>>> sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> 于2021年4月14日周三 下午10:39写道:
>>>> 
>>>>> Although there are no matches for UnioneCloud, there is a match for
>>>>> UnionCloud.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Their owner might consider UnioneCloud to be confusingly similar.
>>>>> And future searchers for UnioneCloud may be directed to UnionCloud.
>>>>> 
>>>>> S.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 at 13:22, Jian Qiu <swordqiu@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi, Daniel,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> UnioneCloud = UniOneCloud, stands for  'Unify multiclouds into One
>> Cloud'
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Daniel Gruno <humbedooh@apache.org> 于2021年4月14日周三
下午7:49写道:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 14/04/2021 09.06, Jian Qiu wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi, Dave,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> When we decide to donate project to Apache Incubator, we
consider
>>>>> several
>>>>>>>> candidate names and make a vote in our community, the results
are
>>>>>>>> as follows:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> * YunionCloud - a cloud union of Clouds, 26 vote
>>>>>>>> * UnioneCloud - to unify many clouds into One Cloud, 10 vote
>>>>>>>> * OpenYunion -  open source Cloud Union, 5 vote
>>>>>>>> * OpenMHCP - open source Multi/Hybrid Cloud Platform, 2 vote
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> So we decided to choose YunionCloud as the new name. But
we did not
>>>>>>>> realize it conflicted with our company domain name.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> As you suggested, we would like to consider UnioneCloud as
the
>>>>> project
>>>>>>> name.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Would you consider UnioneCloud an appropriate project name?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What does the E in UnioneCloud signify? I must confess I find
it
>>>>>>> distracting that there is what appears to the average reader
as a
>> typo,
>>>>>>> but if there is a reason you did not pick UnionCloud, I'd be
happy to
>>>>>>> hear it :)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Jian Qiu
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Willem Jiang <willem.jiang@gmail.com> 于2021年4月14日周三
上午9:47写道:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I understand your concern. Actually,  I had a long discussion
with
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> team about the project name, but I missed that the company's
domain
>>>>>>>>> name has a close relationship with the project name.
>>>>>>>>> Now the development team is working on finding a new
name for it.
>>>>> We
>>>>>>>>> will come back with a new project name for this proposal.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Willem Jiang
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Twitter: willemjiang
>>>>>>>>> Weibo: 姜宁willem
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 1:26 PM Dave Fisher <wave@apache.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> This looks like an interesting project.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> My concern is that the donation comes from https://www.yunion.cn
>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>> has a similar name to the podling and that might cause
trademark
>>>>>>> confusion.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 11, 2021, at 9:40 PM, Jian Qiu <swordqiu@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> We would like to propose YunionCloud as a new
Apache Incubator
>>>>>>> project.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> YunionCloud is a unified multi-cloud/hybrid-cloud
management
>>>>> platform.
>>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>>>>> is an IaaS platform capable of managing on-premise
resources,
>>>>>>> including
>>>>>>>>>>> virtual machines and BareMetals. Further, it
is extended to
>> manage
>>>>>>>>>>> resources from other cloud platforms, including
public and
>> private
>>>>>>>>> cloud
>>>>>>>>>>> providers. It provides consistent APIs and Web
UI to access
>>>>>>>>> heterogeneous
>>>>>>>>>>> resources from multi-cloud/hybrid-cloud. The
platform is
>>>>> implemented
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> Golang, portable and lightweight, and can be
deployed in
>>>>> Kubernetes
>>>>>>>>>>> clusters.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> The proposal can be found at
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/YunionCloud++Proposal
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> The project has been open-sourced since March
2019 at GitHub
>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/yunionio/yunioncloud
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> The project used to be called OneCloud, but we
are in the process
>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> changing the name to YunionCloud to avoid potential
trademark
>>>>>>>>> conflicts.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks to Willem Jiang as our champion and
mentor to guide
>>>>> us to
>>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>>>>> up this proposal. We still need 2-3 mentors to
set us on the
>>>>> track. If
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>> are interested, please kindly let me know. Besides,
we are eager
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> hear
>>>>>>>>>>> any of your thoughts on this project.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to your feedback and thank you
for your time.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Jian Qiu, Co-found of YunionCloud
>>>>>>>>>>> swordqiu@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
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