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From KimmKing <kimmk...@apache.org>
Subject Re:Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal of Shenyu
Date Thu, 15 Apr 2021 16:01:29 GMT
Thanks all of you,both for doubt and clarification that make the proposal clear, and that's
the point of the discussion about "Incubating Proposal of Shenyu".
As a supplement to xiaoyu's thread, I and tuohai666 as the mentor of more than 40 contributors
in Shenyu/Soul project, teaching them for this project and launch three activities for soul
community with hundreds of people participated.


All 166 contributors are as follow:
-----------------------------------------------------
soul % git summary
 project  : soul
 repo age : 2 years 9 month ago
 active   : 355 days
 commits  : 1124
 files    : 1267
 authors  :
   193 yu199195             17.2%
   123 xiaoyu               10.9%
   120 Administrator        10.7%
    92 dengliming           8.2%
    34 SteNicholas          3.0%
    29 吼怠                 2.6%
    27 汤煜冬               2.4%
    22 George               2.0%
    17 huangxfchn           1.5%
    16 流浪诗人             1.4%
    13 纳兰丶               1.2%
    13 SaberSola            1.2%
    12 Tboy                 1.1%
    11 Seemie               1.0%
    11 YuI                  1.0%
    10 zendwang             0.9%
    10 伊文龙               0.9%
     9 2416004895@qq.com    0.8%
     9 lw1243925457         0.8%
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     8 David Liu            0.7%
     8 萧                   0.7%
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At 2021-04-15 23:11:13, "kezhenxu94" <kezhenxu94@apache.org> wrote:
>Hi Xiaoyu, thanks for clarifying.
>
>I expressed my doubt about the initial committers as it is a step prior to the voting
process, namely “refining the initial committers”. The reason why I raised it is that
I just hope you won’t miss anyone who had contributed much to the project, for those who
you listed as initial committers, I definitely believe that they contributed to the project
in many kinds of aspects beyond the code commits so feel free to add them back. Anyway, your
clarification makes sense to me.
>
>As for the contributors and known users, I didn’t mean to state the IP, I just want
to make sure that the community (contributors and users) are correctly belonging to the project
which is being proposed so that reviewers can have a better idea whether it has risks during
incubation. Your clarification also makes sense to me. And it would be helpful to mention
this (the links only count the Shenyu project) in the proposal as well so that reviewers are
aware of this. 
>
>> On Apr 15, 2021, at 22:10, Yu Xiao <xiaoyu@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi kezhenxu94 and Kris Calvin
>> 
>> I'm Xiaoyu founded this project in 2018. Firstly, thank you very much for
>> your comments.
>> 
>> For why they would be the initial committers:
>> 
>>> [1] https://github.com/dromara/soul/commits?author=tuohai666
>>> [3] https://github.com/dromara/soul/commits?author=kimmking
>> 
>> 1. As Dromara.org core members, they are active in running the community
>> activities: https://dromara.org/activities. serving as mentors for many
>> people to enjoy open source and join our community.
>> 
>>> [2] https://github.com/dromara/soul/commits?author=dmsolr
>> 
>> After our discussion he will be removed from initial committers list.
>> 
>> For why they would not be initial committers:
>> 
>>> https://github.com/dromara/soul/commits?author=SteNicholas
>> 
>> SteNicholas contribute to soul-admin in 2018, his code refactoring had been
>> completed, and he does not join community any more.
>> 
>>> https://github.com/dromara/soul/commits?author=Asxing
>>> https://github.com/dromara/soul/commits?author=lw1243925457
>> 
>> After our discussion Asxing and lw1243925457 will be added to initial
>> committers list.
>> 
>>> https://github.com/dromara/soul/commits?author=huangxfchn
>> 
>> I am the mentor of huangxfchn, but now he doesn't have time to help with
>> the project, and we welcome him back when he is free.
>> 
>>> https://github.com/dromara/soul/commits?author=SaberSola
>> 
>> He is Lei Zhang who already exists in initial committers list.
>> 
>>> https://github.com/dromara/soul/commits?author=Technoboy-
>> 
>> He contributed only 357 lines of code, not enough, welcome his further
>> contributions.
>> 
>> Finally:
>> 
>> 1. PPMC members will consider nominating them as committers after enter the
>> incubator.
>> 
>> 2. Our project is growing very quickly, and there will be a lot of tasks
>> and community work ahead, there will be important work for them.
>> 
>>> [5] https://dromara.org/awesome/#contributors
>>> [6] https://dromara.org/awesome/#knownusers
>> 
>> 1. We only counted the Soul project, not include the other projects.
>> 2. When join the ASF incubator, we will clean IP, in order to ensure the
>> apache way.
>> 
>> Best Regards
>> xiaoyu(xiaoyu@apache.org)
>> 
>> Kris Calvin <kirs@apache.org> 于2021年4月15日周四 下午9:06写道:
>> 
>>> I have the same question about this. I’m not sure what the criteria of the
>>> initial committers of the project are. Maybe they have contributed to the
>>> project in other ways, but as Zhenxu said, the contributors in [4] The
>>> contribution is visible to everyone. I don’t know why they are not
>>> considered as initial submitters. In my opinion, initial submitters need
>>> some in-depth understanding of the project. They will participate in
>>> project discussions, PR reviews, and RoadMap. And these contributors in [4]
>>> are undoubtedly your best choice.
>>> 
>>> Maintain an open and equal attitude towards all contributors, so that the
>>> community will have continuous vitality.
>>> 
>>> You can refer to the following articles, which can help you better develop
>>> projects and build your community. Similarly, it is also recommended that
>>> you learn more about the Apache Way.
>>> 
>>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/conduct.html
>>> 
>>> kezhenxu94 <kezhenxu94@apache.org> 于2021年4月15日周四 下午5:58写道:
>>> 
>>>> Hi, this looks to me a good project for incubation, while at the same
>>> time
>>>> I am curious about the selection of initial committers. From the git
>>> log, I
>>>> can see the contributions of some of the initial committers are trivial
>>>> (IMO) such as, code style (~70 LOC) [1] , minor code polishing (686 LOC)
>>>> [2], minor code refactor and minor doc (23 LOC) [3], while the
>>> contributors
>>>> contributed features and bug fixes (1000+ LOC) are not listed as initial
>>>> committers [4]? Any reason not to invite those into initial committers
>>> team?
>>>> 
>>>> Also, this discussion is only targeting Shenyu, that said, only Shenyu
>>>> will in donated / incubated in ASF, but the link to contributors [5] and
>>>> the link to known users [6] include all components from the org
>>> (Dromara),
>>>> which is misleading.
>>>> 
>>>> [1] https://github.com/dromara/soul/commits?author=tuohai666
>>>> [2] https://github.com/dromara/soul/commits?author=dmsolr
>>>> [3] https://github.com/dromara/soul/commits?author=kimmking
>>>> 
>>>> [4] https://github.com/dromara/soul/commits?author=SteNicholas
>>>> https://github.com/dromara/soul/commits?author=Asxing
>>>> https://github.com/dromara/soul/commits?author=huangxfchn
>>>> https://github.com/dromara/soul/commits?author=lw1243925457
>>>> https://github.com/dromara/soul/commits?author=SaberSola
>>>> https://github.com/dromara/soul/commits?author=Technoboy-
>>>> 
>>>> [5] https://dromara.org/awesome/#contributors
>>>> [6] https://dromara.org/awesome/#knownusers
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 14, 2021, at 00:11, Lidong Dai <dailidong66@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> +1 (no binding)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>> 
>>>>> sorry for misuse of Apache DolphinScheduler as my mail name. correct
it
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>> ---------------
>>>>> DolphinScheduler(Incubator) PPMC
>>>>> Lidong Dai
>>>>> dailidong66@gmail.com
>>>>> ---------------
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 11:58 PM Apache DolphinScheduler <
>>>>>> dailidong66@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> +1 (no binding)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>> ---------------
>>>>>> DolphinScheduler PMC
>>>>>> Lidong Dai
>>>>>> dailidong66@gmail.com
>>>>>> ---------------
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 5:28 PM Goson zhang <gosonzhang@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> +1 (no binding)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Good luck!!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> jincheng sun <sunjincheng121@gmail.com> 于2021年4月13日周二
上午10:32写道:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> +1 (binding)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>> Jincheng
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Juan Pan <panjuan@apache.org> 于2021年4月12日周一
下午7:55写道:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Welcome, looks many people are interested in this project.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>  Juan Pan (Trista)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Senior DBA & PMC of Apache ShardingSphere
>>>>>>>>> E-mail: panjuan@apache.org
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 04/12/2021 10:46,Liu Ted<tedliu1@yahoo.com.INVALID>
wrote:
>>>>>>>>> +1 (binding)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Ted Liu
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 在 2021 年 4月 月 12 日週一,時間:9:14 ,
Kevin A. McGrail <
>>> kmcgrail@apache.org
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 寫道:   +1 binding and good luck!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 11, 2021, 21:08 Zhang Yonglun <zhangyonglun@apache.org
>>>> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks. I had also invited Justin Mclean to be our mentor.
Now he's
>>>> in
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> Mentors list.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Zhang Yonglun
>>>>>>>>> Apache ShardingSphere
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com> 于2021年4月11日周日
下午11:26写道:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Good to see you are ready for this proposal.
>>>>>>>>> Good luck!!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>>>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Willem Jiang <willem.jiang@gmail.com> 于2021年4月11日周日
下午10:42写道:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Atric
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the kindly offer.
>>>>>>>>> I just added you to the mentor list.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Willem Jiang
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Twitter: willemjiang
>>>>>>>>> Weibo: 姜宁willem
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 9:24 PM Atri Sharma <atri@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Please include me in mentors list if required.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2021, 18:42 Kevin Ratnasekera, <
>>>>>>>>> djkevincr1989@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> +1 (binding) Please count me in if you consider adding
further
>>>>>>>>> mentors.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 6:20 PM Willem Jiang <
>>>>>>>>> willem.jiang@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ShenYu (神禹) project is developed by the Dromara[1]
community.
>>>>>>>>> ShenYu
>>>>>>>>> is a high performance Microservices API gateway in the
Java
>>>>>>>>> ecosystem,
>>>>>>>>> compatible with a variety of mainstream framework systems,
>>>>>>>>> supports
>>>>>>>>> hot plug extenstion. Users can write their own plugin
to meet the
>>>>>>>>> current requirement and future needs in a variety of
scenarios,
>>>>>>>>> especially in large-scale scenes.
>>>>>>>>> Recently the Dromara community decided to donate the
project
>>>>>>>>> Apache
>>>>>>>>> Software Foundation[2].
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> As the Champion of ShenYu, I'd like to bring your attention
to
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> proposal of ShenYu [3] for Incubation in the Apache Software
>>>>>>>>> Foundation.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Please note that the Shenyu project was named Soul before,
but we
>>>>>>>>> decided to rename the project because of the trademark
issue. You
>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>> find the original project web page here[4].
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> [1]https://github.com/dromara/
>>>>>>>>> [2]https://github.com/dromara/soul/issues/1247
>>>>>>>>> [3]
>>>>>>>>> 
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/ShenyuProposal
>>>>>>>>> [4]https://dromara.org/projects/soul/overview/
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Willem Jiang
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Twitter: willemjiang
>>>>>>>>> Weibo: 姜宁willem
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Best  wishes!
>>> CalvinKirs
>>> 
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