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From Craig Russell <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] YuniKorn Proposal
Date Sun, 22 Dec 2019 03:01:24 GMT
Hi Casey,

> On Dec 20, 2019, at 10:31 AM, Casey <> wrote:
> Hi Folks,
> Cloudera does not have a trademark on YuniKorn; we do use the name in a few
> places with a quick look.  So there's no trademark assignment needed, but
> if there is something else you'd like us to do related to any ownership
> interest, please let me know.

If Apache does incubate and graduate Yunikorn as a top level project, we would require Cloudera
to commit to recognize Yunikorn as an Apache project in all of its materials. 

Otherwise, there would be confusion in the market about whether Yunikorn was an Apache project
or a Cloudera project. It cannot be both.

If Cloudera can commit to not using Yunikorn to describe its own project once it graduates
and becomes an Apache project, ok.

If not, the Apache project will need to find a new name.

> Regards,
> Casey
> *Cassandra L. Valk* | Open Source License Analyst / Sr. Contracts Manager
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> On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 1:22 PM Wangda Tan <> wrote:
>> Added Casey Valk from Cloudera legal team to the thread to answer the
>> question regarding trademark of YuniKorn.
>> Best,
>> Wangda
>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 10:56 PM Wangda Tan <> wrote:
>>> Hi Justin/Craig,
>>> Thanks for sharing these information, very helpful.
>>> I think Cloudera doesn’t own the trademark and name. Checking with
>>> cloudera legal now and will keep the thread posted.
>>> Thanks
>>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 2:34 PM Justin Mclean <>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Again thanks for your replies.
>>>>> *"The initial committers are from several relevant Apache projects who
>>>> are
>>>>> interested in YuniKorn and committed to giving guidance, suggestions
>>>> to the
>>>>> project, help to grow the community; and if possible, participants in
>>>> code
>>>>> development."*
>>>>> They're aware of the PPMC requirements, I don't think there's any
>>>> surprise
>>>>> to proposed initial committers.
>>>> That great. A long way off but just be aware that if these people are
>>>> listed on the graduation proposal for PMC members and they have not been
>>>> active in the project that may delay graduation.
>>>>> We have already got SGA (Software Grant Agreement) from Cloudera, I'm
>>>> not
>>>>> sure if we need to attach the SGA now, before vote or so. Is there any
>>>>> additional documentation needed apart from SGA.
>>>> No you don’t need to submit an SGA before voting on the proposal, what
>>>> we need is a clear indication that your name is unlikely to change and that
>>>> it’s Cloudera intent to hand over rights to the name.The name would not
>>>> need to be transferred until graduation.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Justin

Craig L Russell

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