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From Geertjan Wielenga <>
Subject Re: Podling expectations and some issues encountered in incubation
Date Mon, 01 Jul 2019 06:32:59 GMT
Well, I think a lot of frustration with the Apache incubation process could
be avoided simply by very explicitly asking this question to a community
planning to start incubation: “Are you aware that until you complete
incubation you will not be in full control of your project, for example,
please scrap your release schedule until you complete incubation because
your release dates will not be under your control?”


On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 at 00:46, Daniel Shahaf <> wrote:

> Geertjan Wielenga wrote on Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 18:14:52 +0200:
> > Any community joining Apache should be very clear in their own minds that
> > the Incubator is there for them to get used to the Apache Way. It is not
> > there for getting releases done in the same cadence as before the
> community
> > entered the Incubator, nor does it carry the responsibility for that.
> Until
> > leaving the Incubator, a project is not in the hands of its community but
> > in those of the Incubator. There should be no confusion about that very
> > simple principle.
> I don't understand what you mean by your penultimate sentence.  Might you
> explain it in different words?
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