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From Myrle Krantz <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] introduce "[DISCUSS]" threads for podling non-ASF release candidates
Date Wed, 06 Mar 2019 16:15:05 GMT
Hey all,

I've only heard positive feedback on this proposal.  It doesn't solve all
our problems, but it would provide a path around some of the bureaucracy.

Would the other mentors be willing to bring this suggestion to their
podlings?  Especially the "young" ones who still need releases outside of
the ASF?

Best Regards,

On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 8:50 AM Myrle Krantz <> wrote:

> Motivation:
> Some podlings want or need feedback on their releases before they are
> ready to make official Apache releases.  They want to discuss releases that
> are not yet ready for a VOTE, or that they are not sure they are ready for
> a vote.  They may wish to make an early release outside of the foundation,
> but still test the ASF waters.  They prefer to "fail early, fail often and
> fail forward". [1]
> Proposal:
> Podlings should be able to request feedback by starting a "[DISCUSS]"
> thread instead of a "[VOTE]" thread.  Discussion should give podlings
> feedback on what they would need to do to bring their release in line with
> the requirements for graduation to TLP.  Podlings will be responsible for
> capturing feedback that they accept in work items for their project.
> Feedback provided in a discussion thread will not block a non-ASF release.
> Asking for feedback using this mechanism is not obligatory, but rather a
> service that the incubator offers.
> Arguments for this proposal:
> * It's a very small change which may make it easier to implement than some
> of the "throw it all away and start over" proposals circulating, but...
> * It doesn't prevent us from making other larger changes.
> * It's not a rule.  It's an offering of an additional service + an
> incremental reduction in stringency of the incubator.
> * It captures some of the value in what we are doing now while increasing
> the degrees of freedom provided to podlings.
> * It is consistent with our values of transparency, collaboration,
> community, pragmatism, meritocracy, and charity.
> Best Regards,
> Myrle
> 1.)

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