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From Dave Fisher <>
Subject Re: Withdraw from Incubator or TLP status?
Date Tue, 05 Mar 2019 07:06:02 GMT
Hi -

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> On Mar 4, 2019, at 10:38 PM, Danny Angus <> wrote:
> I think we have had projects "leave", back in the day, before we were
> structured like this. But thinking about a example, maybe they were
> sub-projects.
> It's worth noting that anyone is free to fork an Apache licenced project at
> any time, so there is some protection should the founders which to leave
> the foundation with their code. Trademarks would be different.

Yes, trademarks are different, but if the project already has an existing registered trademark
that could be discussed with VP, Brand. It has happened that trademark assignment has been
negotiated to occur once a podling graduates, but it is not the normal case.

Write if you want to discuss.


> D.
>> On Tue, 5 Mar 2019, 6:27 am Justin Mclean, <> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Is there a specific reason you ask this?
>>> 1. In the incubation period, because of some special matters, is it also
>> entitled to voluntarily withdraw?
>> Yes it usually called retiring (although podling don’t really retire) ,
>> but some projects live on elsewhere (like GitHub). The existing ALv2 would
>> need to be honoured and the project may need to change it name from the
>> Apache one, but it may not have to. See for example ODF Toolkit.
>>> 2. After becoming a TLP, can this TLP still have the right to
>> voluntarily withdraw?
>> An Apache project can be retired to the Attic. [1] After this development
>> could possibly occur elsewhere, but there may be naming and trademark
>> issues to consider.
>> I would assume if a project asked the board to no longer be an Apache
>> project / podling they would consider it and probably wouldn’t want to keep
>> a project here against it’s will. I can’t recall this ever happening.
>> Thanks,
>> Justin
>> 1.
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