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From Dave Fisher <>
Subject Re: Challenges using Gitbox
Date Mon, 16 Apr 2018 17:59:18 GMT

Hi -

> Another point I didn't bring up in my original email is the obsolescence of
> Apache's svn binaries repository in the light of commonly used package
> manager ( for Python, npm for Javacsript, ..., Maven for Java(?) ,
> ...). While I understand the importance of the ASF being independent and
> the need for signed binaries, it seems like effectively everyone will just
> use the release available on popular package manager. Maybe in a perfect
> world we'd have tooling that pushes to both repos atomically. In the
> meantime, I guess it's for podlings to build their own process & tooling to
> ship their releases.

Every project must put all of their Apache releases onto the Apache Infra and offer the source
download. This is Open Source! The binaries are convenience. Most projects treat these the
same, and many use other channels to provide binaries.

Maven releases are supported though <>
and can be pushed through to Maven Central.
I know of at least one project that is pushing out through NPM. That would be Apache Royale.
Apache OpenOffice binaries are too much for the Apache Mirror system and the PMC uses SourceForge.

Ask around about binaries.

If you have questions about the release policy then ask on legal-discuss@


> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 6:39 AM, Ralph Goers <>
> wrote:
>>> On Apr 11, 2018, at 11:11 AM, Maxime Beauchemin <
>>> wrote:
>>> Hi general@incubator!
>>> This is an email discussing the challenges we are facing while using
>> Github
>>> / Gitbox for our ASF project and wanted to start a thread to discuss
>>> solutions and ways we can mitigate.
>>> We're very grateful for Gitbox, but here are the challenges we're facing
>>> with it:
>>> 1. Our PMs are not committers, so they can't do simple things as labeling
>>> issues, closing issues and assigning issues to people. We need either for
>>> them to have write access to Github, or for them to get some sort of
>>> special committer status so they can get write access. Is voting PMs as
>>> committers the solution here?
>> I’m just wondering what a project manager is in the context of an Apache
>> project? Why would anyone be assigning issues to people? This is a
>> volunteer organization.  If this is being done as part of an employer then
>> it should not be handled at the ASF.
>> Ralph
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