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From Dave Fisher <>
Subject Re: Affiliation vs. individual
Date Sat, 04 Nov 2017 19:13:20 GMT
Hi Gunnar,

I think that you present a reasonable scenario. We even allow individuals to use an alias
for their public names. We do want to know the real names on the ICLA.

Rather than “private donation” I think “unaffiliated” or “” is better.

As you understand we want to know affiliation as a measure of diversity for practical reasons.
We are about Community over Code and want to avoid being in a situation where a project is
unviable because a majority of the individuals were contributing through work and their employers
made other decisions. This happens all the time and is perfectly normal and expected.

In the Incubator we want to assure that podlings are viable communities when they graduate.
In that assessment in my opinion unaffiliated committers and PMC members are truly a plus
for a community. Assuming that they can answer asking why a committer was affiliated at the
beginning of incubation and is no longer may prove the diversity of the podling. Changes in
affiliation might be good signs too.


> On Nov 4, 2017, at 11:06 AM, Gunnar Tapper <> wrote:
> Hi,
> I've discussed this with a few individuals but would like to raise the
> discussion with a larger group.
> Situation
> As contributors to the ASF, we represents ourselves as individuals. Some of
> us contribute to projects as part of our employment, some of us donate our
> time privately.
> Discussion
> You the individual is asked to share your employer when going through
> processes such as graduation. I get the reason: to ensure diversity in the
> project.
> However, some of us are donating our private time and may therefore want to
> represent ourselves as a private donor rather than involve our employeer in
> the discussion.
> [Disclosure: I work for a company that is unlikely to have an issue with my
> involvement with ASF projects outside what my company cares for.]
> Proposal
> Anyone that chooses to do so can use "private donation" instead of the
> employer when representing affiliation.
> Thoughts?
> --
> Thanks,
> Gunnar
> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*

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