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From Shane Curcuru <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Distributed Release Audit Tool (DRAT)
Date Thu, 10 Aug 2017 13:01:05 GMT
Greg Stein wrote on 8/10/17 8:44 AM:
> On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 6:46 AM, Shane Curcuru <> wrote:
>> (note mixed private/public lists)
>> - Has the Apache Creadur project been consulted about the new project
>> proposal, and in particular do they have any comments on using DRAT as
>> the name, which subsumes their popular Rat name?
> These are not the same communities. The Foundation should not "force" them
> to work together.
> They might logically make sense together, but the *communities* are
> disjoint. There is zero reason for those communities to be lumped together.
> In fact, it was the disjoint communities under an umbrella project that
> spearheaded the Foundation's "blow up umbrellas" campaign a decade ago.
> Communities define groupings. Not topic.

You bring up the community issue, which I agree with you on.  I bring up
the *name* issue, which I imagine I disagree with you on.

> And does the DRAT acronym really impose on what the Creadur people are
> doing with their Rat tool? Meh. That's a stretch.

Given that Rat is used reasonably widely - perhaps not as a major tool,
but there's still good awareness of it - I thought it would be nice if
someone asked their community if they minded having their name subsumed
by a completely new project.

It seems rude to directly copy the name of another Apache project
without even asking.  And if these two projects were hosted at different
organizations, there would definitely be a likelihood of confusion.


- Shane

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