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From Von Gosling <vongosl...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache RocketMQ from podling to TLP
Date Wed, 23 Aug 2017 03:53:30 GMT
Hi John,

Thanks for your suggestion, we have looked through the graduation process carefully and made
a discussion in PPMC email list sufficiently. From our guide picture[1] depict, I haven't
seen the IPMC discuss process. But in the next paragraph, I noticed the description :

The resolution should be proposed on the general incubator list before a VOTE is started to
allow feedback. Once a consensus has been reached, a VOTE should be started on the same general
incubator list by a member of the PPMC proposing that the IPMC recommends the resolution to
the Board.

I’m totally confused. If the discussion in IPMC is necessary, I am willing to cancel this
email and call for discussion in IPMC list :-)

[1] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#ipmc-top-level-recommendation <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#ipmc-top-level-recommendation>


Best Regards,
Von Gosling


> 在 2017年8月23日,11:34,John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org> 写道:
> 
> Hi Von Gosling,
> 
> A few concerns pop up on my side when looking at this.
> 
> - You're mixing public and private mailing lists in this email.
> - You may want to review [1] - we do call out the need to forward to the
> incubator that the vote.  This is usually to start discussions.
> Specifically we do ask in [2] that the charter be sent before a vote to
> help us discuss it before the vote.
> 
> I'd like you to consider these things and perhaps start a discussion
> thread.  We're more than 3 weeks ahead of the board meeting so plenty of
> time to iron things out.  You can see examples of what this looks like at
> [3] and [4].
> 
> [1]:
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#the_graduation_process <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#the_graduation_process>
> [2]:
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#the_recommendation_vote <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#the_recommendation_vote>
> [3]:
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/214424f03d6f7b47f3abc1e3da772627390a07960daa8b95365380bc@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
<https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/214424f03d6f7b47f3abc1e3da772627390a07960daa8b95365380bc@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E>
> [4]:
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/f4050631cf7f561b8ce648ac04d9b3c86a6972b2f5e3a84e4d6139a1@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
<https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/f4050631cf7f561b8ce648ac04d9b3c86a6972b2f5e3a84e4d6139a1@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E>
> 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 11:08 PM Von Gosling <fengjia10@gmail.com <mailto:fengjia10@gmail.com>>
wrote:
> 
>> Hello IPMC,
>> 
>> The recent DISCUSS thread in PPMC and VOTE thread in Community on the
>> topic of Apache RocketMQ graduation have been opened for at least 72 hours,
>> and I believe all questions have been answered and issues addressed at this
>> point.
>> 
>> With the discussion having settled down, I would now like to call for a
>> recommendation VOTE to present the ASF board with the following resolution
>> to graduate from incubation and establish Apache RocketMQ as a top-level
>> project (TLP).
>> 
>> RocketMQ PPMC DISCUSS thread:
>> 
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/9a11743e18cf15c1c7ecbd6be7d2041453d5838a4ed2d1b8457f5dbc@%3Cprivate.rocketmq.apache.org%3E
>> <
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/9a11743e18cf15c1c7ecbd6be7d2041453d5838a4ed2d1b8457f5dbc@%3Cprivate.rocketmq.apache.org%3E
<https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/9a11743e18cf15c1c7ecbd6be7d2041453d5838a4ed2d1b8457f5dbc@%3Cprivate.rocketmq.apache.org%3E>
>>> 
>> 
>> RocketMQ Community VOTE thread:
>> 
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/6fabcac0aeb8f649ee5e8ba2ab0c867a01d3e836c9adbd9072dc738e@%3Cdev.rocketmq.apache.org%3E
<https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/6fabcac0aeb8f649ee5e8ba2ab0c867a01d3e836c9adbd9072dc738e@%3Cdev.rocketmq.apache.org%3E>
>> <
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/6fabcac0aeb8f649ee5e8ba2ab0c867a01d3e836c9adbd9072dc738e@%3Cdev.rocketmq.apache.org%3E
<https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/6fabcac0aeb8f649ee5e8ba2ab0c867a01d3e836c9adbd9072dc738e@%3Cdev.rocketmq.apache.org%3E>
>>> 
>> 
>> RocketMQ Community VOTE RESULT thread:
>> 
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/40cca6b958bdf0f9ec698ef35e54187fe884600c1fed4f98a79c1c2c@%3Cdev.rocketmq.apache.org%3E
<https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/40cca6b958bdf0f9ec698ef35e54187fe884600c1fed4f98a79c1c2c@%3Cdev.rocketmq.apache.org%3E>
>> <
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/40cca6b958bdf0f9ec698ef35e54187fe884600c1fed4f98a79c1c2c@%3Cdev.rocketmq.apache.org%3E
<https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/40cca6b958bdf0f9ec698ef35e54187fe884600c1fed4f98a79c1c2c@%3Cdev.rocketmq.apache.org%3E>
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Apache RocketMQ entered incubation in November 2016. Since then there have
>> been two releases and four committers and one pmc candidate member have
>> been added to the project. For each release, source and binary artifacts
>> have been made available. Based on the completed maturity evaluation we
>> believe that the project is ready to graduate from the incubator. More
>> checklist info about graduation, please refer to
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ROCKETMQ/Graduation+Checklist <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ROCKETMQ/Graduation+Checklist>
>> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ROCKETMQ/Graduation+Checklist <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ROCKETMQ/Graduation+Checklist>
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Please vote on whether to recommend the following graduation resolution to
>> the ASF Board.
>> 
>> [  ]  +1, In favor of recommending the following graduation resolution to
>> the ASF Board to establish Apache RocketMQ as a TLP
>> [  ]  +0, Neither opposed to, nor in favor of, recommending the following
>> graduation resolution to the Board
>> [  ]  -1, Opposed to recommending the following graduation resolution to
>> the Board(provide details)
>> 
>> This VOTE will be open for at least 72 hours. Here is my vote +1. Thanks
>> to all Mentors and Apache RocketMQ Project members for their support and
>> contributions again.
>> 
>> The full text of the resolution is below. If approved by the Apache
>> Incubator PMC members, the proposed resolution will be submitted to the
>> Board of Directors for their consideration.
>> 
>> Establish the Apache RocketMQ Project
>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
>> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
>> a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
>> of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
>> related to a fast, low latency, reliable, scalable, distributed, easy to
>> use message-oriented middleware, especially for processing large amounts
>> of streaming data.
>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
>> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache RocketMQ Project", be and hereby is
>> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>> RESOLVED, that the Apache RocketMQ Project be and hereby is responsible
>> for the creation and maintenance of software related to a fast, low
>> latency, reliable, scalable, distributed, easy to use message-oriented
>> middleware, especially for processing large amounts of streaming data;
>> and be it further
>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache RocketMQ" be and
>> hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
>> direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache RocketMQ
>> Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
>> projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache RocketMQ
>> Project; and be it further
>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
>> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache RocketMQ
>> Project:
>> * Bsnyder <bsnyder@apache.org>
>> * Jmclean <jmclean@apache.org>
>> * Jim <jim@apache.org>
>> * Ningjiang <ningjiang@apache.org>
>> * Von Gosling <vongosling@apache.org>
>> * Xiaorui Wang <vintagewang@apache.org>
>> * Xinyu Zhou <yukon@apache.org>
>> * Zhanhui Li <lizhanhui@apache.org>
>> * Jixiang Jin <lollipop@apache.org>
>> * Dongeforever <dongeforever@apache.org>
>> 
>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Xiaorui Wang be appointed to
>> the office of Vice President, Apache RocketMQ, to serve in accordance
>> with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the
>> Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal
>> or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
>> further
>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache RocketMQ PMC be and hereby is tasked
>> with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open
>> development and increased participation in the Apache RocketMQ Project;
>> and be it further
>> RESOLVED, that the Apache RocketMQ Project be and hereby is tasked with
>> the migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator RocketMQ
>> podling; and be it further
>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
>> RocketMQ podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
>> discharged.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> Von Gosling


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