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From Craig Russell <>
Subject Re: Podling release vote terminology
Date Tue, 09 May 2017 18:30:41 GMT
Hi Jim,

Good questions.

> On May 9, 2017, at 11:04 AM, Jim Apple <> wrote:
> If PPMC members A, B, and C, who are not IPMC members, vote +1 on a
> release, and then the second phase starts, acquires three +1 IPMC votes,
> but A, B, and C change their votes to -1, does the release pass?

Binding votes: 3 +1
non-binding votes: 3 -1

The binding votes determine the outcome. The vote passes.
> Hoe long must the first phase last? How long may it last?

Usual rules. No change.
> If in the first phase, the vote is +3 to -4, may the release manager begin
> the second phase?

No. The usual rules apply to the first phase. More positive than negative votes. At least
three PPMC members must cast votes in order to go to the second phase.

> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 11:00 AM, Craig Russell <> wrote:
>> I've seen a few (recent) incubator votes that imply that there are two
>> separate, distinct votes: one in the podling and one in the incubator
>> general. And lots of questions about binding votes and carried-over votes
>> and whose votes are counted.
>> I'd like to suggest:
>> There is one vote for a podling release candidate. The first phase of the
>> vote takes place on the podling dev list. Anyone can vote. An affirmative
>> vote by three PPMC members (including mentors) is sufficient to start the
>> second phase, which takes place on the incubator general list. An
>> individual's vote can be changed any time during either phase until the
>> final vote is tallied.
>> All votes are counted. Only IPMC member votes are binding. The final tally
>> counts affirmative, neutral, and negative votes from both phases combined
>> and affirmative, neutral and negative binding votes from both phases
>> combined.
>> This terminology answers questions about:
>> Whether PPMC votes are binding. They are not.
>> Whether IPMC member votes on the first phase of voting carry over to the
>> second phase. They do.
>> Whether public votes in either phase count. They do.
>> Whether public votes in either phase are binding. They are not.
>> If we agree on the terminology, I'll see what documents need to be updated.
>> Craig L Russell
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