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From "John D. Ament" <>
Subject GPL with exceptions (was Re: [VOTE] Release apache-singa-incubating-1.1.0 (RC1))
Date Sun, 12 Feb 2017 01:04:46 GMT
Changing topic to avoid polluting the vote.

On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 7:09 PM Justin Mclean <>

> Hi,
> > The problem I see is how autoconf files are actually applied with their
> > headers and licenses.
> Interesting. So are you saying it would be OK to remove the original
> license headers and replace it with an ASF one?
That's effectively what the license is saying to do, as long as you're
meeting the requirements.

Note - its very hard to meet these requirements outside of build chains I
would imagine, since you're limiting derivative software.

> > If I look within HTTPD for instance there's no headers
> Like this file [1]? :-) Not Autoconf but aa build tool and the same GPL
> exception.
That's an interesting one.  I'm a bit surprised if that would be considered
OK for this scenario.  Sure, HTTPD is usually used as a standalone server.
What happens if you embed HTTPD in your own data parser?  You're
effectively violating that license.  This specific case seems very Cat-X to
me.  Similar to the JSON license "no evil" clause.  I actually don't see
how this is a build tool (though its been 5 years since I've had to deal
with make).

> BTW There a fair number of incubating and TLPs containing files with GPL
> exception headers. [2]
Most of those are OK, if you look they're autoconf, and notice
declarations.  Granted I only skimmed the first 2 pages.

> Thanks,
> Justin
> 1.
> 2.
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