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From "John D. Ament" <johndam...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Retire the Climate Model Data Analyzer Podling
Date Mon, 06 Feb 2017 16:55:12 GMT
As I've understood the situation:

- Code was open sourced at apache to become the CMDA project
- Some commits happened against a repo, from what I can tell building a
basic skeleton of a webapp for collecting data
- Commits stopped in November 2015
- There has been very little on list discussions, no code changes coming in.
- I brought up the topic of retirement last summer, due to the lack of
progress (at that point, we were ~7 months in to stagnation).  Project
agreed to resume on list work, ASF based commits
- ~6 months later, brought up the topic again, it was clear no changes were
coming.

If you take a look at [1] you'll see that Chris has called out specifically
that development of CMDA happens, just not at Apache, which is the part
that shouldn't be the case.  Changes shouldn't be sync'd back to ASF.  They
should be developed first at ASF.  Its OK to create non-open source
derivatives of ASF products.

John

[1]:
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/5b072eaab99dad083df271e81845c6e40dde22e8e5afcfd6114802e8@%3Cdev.cmda.apache.org%3E

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 11:47 AM Edward Capriolo <edlinuxguru@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunning@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Tsengdar,
> >
> > Can you give a rationale for your vote?
> >
> > Have you reviewed the history of the situation?
> >
> > Do you think that the current situation is acceptable?
> >
> > What do you think will change the current situation?
> >
> > Why didn't you vote while the vote was going on?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Feb 6, 2017 6:07 AM, "Lee, Tsengdar J. (HQ-DK000)" <
> > tsengdar.j.lee@nasa.gov> wrote:
> >
> > > -1
> > >
> > > On 2/2/17, 7:20 PM, "John D. Ament" <johndament@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >     All,
> > >
> > >     Due to the lack of progress made by the CMDA podling I am calling a
> > > vote to
> > >     retire them.  A discussion and vote thread [1] have occurred on the
> > >     podling's lists.  It was confirmed that development activities
> happen
> > >     outside the ASF.
> > >
> > >     I'm considering this a 72 hour lazy consensus vote since 3 IPMC
> > members
> > >     voted +1 on the podling's list.  My +1 is implied due to the fact
> > that
> > > I've
> > >     been monitoring them and am calling this vote.
> > >
> > >     John
> > >
> > >     [1]:
> > >     https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ac4de53d2b16afb91142449
> > > d7832f6713f54eb9a1fd2d9c6c3efaffb@%3Cdev.cmda.apache.org%3E
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
> I am personally interested in this situation. Possibly the vote has
> happened at a bad time. Without getting into politics we are aware that US
> federal agents are involved in what some would refer to an an "information
> lockdown". This may have prevented or hindered those that wanted to speak.
> However the lack of contributions in the last year can not be contributed
> to the recent event.
>

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