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From Daniel Gruno <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Policy Question: GA for GitHub for Podlings
Date Wed, 09 Nov 2016 00:06:44 GMT
On 11/09/2016 01:00 AM, Christopher wrote:
> Sorry if these questions have already been answered, but I'm still a bit
> confused, so if anybody can answer I'd be grateful.
> Why is GA for podlings being considered before GA for TLPs? Or, is GitHub
> already generally available to TLPs, and I missed that? If I didn't miss
> anything, what are the arguments in favor of and against enabling this for
> podlings first?

Likely because podlings are not TLPs, so they have more freedom in where
they put their source code before graduation. Once graduated, you HAVE
to follow the very specific ruleset of the ASF as a TLP. Podling
experiments going wrong is not nearly as 'deadly' as with a TLP.

> How does this relate to M.A.T.T.? Is that still being piloted, or is that
> now generally available to projects? Is this something different?

MATT will still play a vital role in linking accounts.

> Are we talking about granting PMCs admin on the repos, and committers
> write-access? Or, only PMC chair admin, or some other combination of access
> grants?

This will only be write-access to all committers. There will be no admin
access until we are confident that the granularity of the GitHub ACL is
sufficient for this.

> Will this enable projects to manage GitHub issue labels and milestones?
> That's been really sorely lacking in the Fluo podling since we transitioned
> to incubation from our previous GitHub home, and it'd be *really* nice to
> get that working again.

Yes, you will be able to set labels etc and work with GH issues.

> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 6:47 PM Niall Pemberton <>
> wrote:
>> I'm +1 to this for OpenWhisk.
>> I'm -1 to this as a general availability.
>> There could be issues down the road which means that this option is
>> withdrawn. I'd hate to have alot of podlings with an expectation that were
>> later disappointed.
>> Niall
>> On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 9:50 PM, Chris Mattmann <>
>> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> As some of you may have seen the OpenWhisk podling being discussed now
>> has
>>> requested to use GitHub as its primary master. Greg Stein our ASF Infra
>>> Admin
>>> has OK’ed this for OpenWhisk iff the IPMC is OK with it.
>>> I ask now:
>>> 1. Is the IPMC OK with this for OpenWhisk?
>>> 2. Is the IPMC OK with this in general availability for Podlings?
>>> I am +1 on both (IPMC hat on).
>>> Thanks.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Chris
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