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From Bertrand Delacretaz <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal
Date Thu, 15 Sep 2016 13:33:49 GMT

On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Wade Chandler <> wrote:
> NetBeans has installers, and those installers inevitably bake in some things. ATM they
provide both Tomcat and
> Glassfish. I assume that could be changed to TomEE or what ever, but would like to know
what limits to bundling
> of various binaries there are during build time to build artifacts...

I'm not an expert in distributing binaries from Apache projects, as
I've not been involved in a lot of such cases - maybe someone with
more experience can help as well.

The most important thing is that Apache releases source code only, not
binaries. The rather strict conditions of apply to the source code that we

Projects are welcome to also distribute "convenience binaries" which
have softer requirements as they are not officially endorsed by the
foundation (or something like that, dunno the exact wording).

One project that I think has done a good job in distributing such
binaries is Flex, which has a binary installer at and good explanations on
binaries at

IMO (but as I said I'm not an expert) what's important is that

a) Our users can reuse the source code that we release without having
more restrictions than the Apache License defines.

b) If we distribute convenience binaries or tools that download those,
we must do so in a responsible way, clearly informing our users of any
licenses that are more restrictive in these binaries, and providing a
simple and possibly automated way of checking the integrity of
whatever our installers might download for them.


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