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From Geertjan Wielenga <>
Subject [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal
Date Tue, 13 Sep 2016 07:40:31 GMT
Hello everyone,

Attached to this message is a proposed new project - Apache NetBeans, a
development environment, tooling platform, and application framework.

The text of the proposal is included below. Additionally, the proposal is
in draft form on the Wiki, where we will make any required changes:

We look forward to your feedback and input.

Kind regards,



= NetBeans Proposal =

== Abstract ==

NetBeans is an open source development environment, tooling platform,
and application framework, used by 1.5 million individuals each month.

== Proposal ==

Apache NetBeans will continue to focus on the areas it has focused on
while sponsored by Sun Microsystems and Oracle. It will continue to
primarily focus on providing tools for the Java ecosystem, while also
being focused on tools for other ecosystems, languages and
technologies, such as JavaScript, PHP, and C/C++. It will continue to
actively support its community by means of mailing lists, tutorials,
and documentation.

== Background ==

NetBeans started in 1995/96 in Prague, in the Czech Republic, as a
student project. Sun Microsystems acquired and open sourced it in 2000
and, with the acquisition of Sun Microsystems by Oracle in 2010,
became part of Oracle. Throughout its history in Sun Microsystems and
Oracle, NetBeans has been free and open source and has been leveraged
by its sponsor as a mechanism for driving the Java ecosystem forward.

== Rationale ==

Although NetBeans is already open source, moving it to a neutral place
like Apache, with its strong governance model, is expected to help get
more contributions from various organizations. For example, large
companies are using NetBeans as an application framework to build
internal or commercial applications and are much more likely to
contribute to it once it moves to neutral Apache ground. At the same
time, though Oracle will relinquish its control over NetBeans,
individual contributors from Oracle are expected to continue
contributing to NetBeans after it has been contributed to Apache,
together with individual contributors from other organizations, as
well as self-employed individual contributors.

== Initial Goals ==

The initial goals of the NetBeans contribution under the Apache
umbrella are to establish a new home for an already fully functioning
project and to open up the governance model so as to simplify and
streamline contributions from the community.

== Current Status ==

Meritocracy: NetBeans has been run by Oracle, with the majority of
code contributions coming from Oracle. The specific reason for moving
to Apache is to expand the diversity of contributors and to increase
the level of meritocracy in NetBeans. Apache NetBeans will be actively
seeking new contributors and will welcome them warmly and provide a
friendly and productive environment for purposes of providing a
development environment, tooling environment, and application

Community: NetBeans has approximately 1.5 million active users around
the world, in extremely diverse structures and organizations. NetBeans
is used by teachers and instructors at schools and universities to
teach Java and other languages. It is used by students as an
educational tool. It is used by large organizations who base their
software on the application framework beneath NetBeans. It is used by
web developers for creating web sites and by developers using a range
of tools, languages, and technologies to be productive and efficient
software developers.

Core Developers: The core developers will come from a range of
organizations, including Oracle, which will continue its investment in

Alignment: The application framework is the basis of a range of
mission critical scientific software at large organizations in
defense, aerospace, logistics, and research, such as at Boeing,
Airbus, NASA, and NATO.

== Known Risks ==

Orphaned Products: The community proposing NetBeans for incubation is
strong and vibrant. The size and diversity of the community is a
guarantee against the project being orphaned.

Inexperience with Open Source: NetBeans has been free and open source
since the early days of its sponsorship by Sun Microsystems. Though
some in the NetBeans community may have worked on Apache projects, the
majority who haven't are well versed in the principles of open source.

Homogenous Developers: Individual contributors from Oracle and other
initial committer organizations will contribute code to NetBeans in
Apache, while at the same time individuals from other organizations
will actively be sought to be added to the project. The aim of the
move to Apache is precisely to open up the governance model, hence the
desire to build up an extremely heterogeneous developer base is
strong. For example, several organizations are very heavily invested
in the NetBeans application framework, having based their software
suites on top of it, hence there will be a significant interest to
make available individual contributors from these organizations, which
tend to be large and well established in the software industry. Also,
including and beyond these organizations, the NetBeans community
around the world is extremely diverse and heterogenous in relation to
geography and backgrounds of developers.

Reliance on Salaried Developers: Most of the contributors are
anticipated to be paid to work on projects in the Java ecosystem.
Others will come from organizations where they are paid to work with
other languages and technologies, such as JavaScript, PHP, and C/C++.
However, since Java skills are needed to develop most parts of
NetBeans, it is unlikely that the developers will go very far outside
the Java ecosystem.

Relationships with Other Apache Products: Many Apache projects have
been supported by tooling in NetBeans over the years, such as Apache
Ant and Apache Maven. A number of Apache projects are used by
NetBeans, such as Apache Commons and friends.

An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand: NetBeans has a strong
brand of its own. Though the stability of the Apache ecosystem is
attractive, the reason for this proposal is simply to be part of the
neutral development sharing ecosystem that Apache makes available.

== Documentation ==

See for an extensive portal to all
the documentation.

== Initial Source ==

The initial source is in Mercurial at and will be
moved, with assistance from Apache infra team, to Apache Git.

== Source and IP Submission Plan ==

NetBeans is dual licensed, CDDL + GPL v2 with Classpath Exception.
Upon entering Apache, the NetBeans license will be migrated to the
current Apache License.

== Trademarks ==

Oracle owns trademark registrations for the NetBeans mark in the U.S.
and EU, and would donate those, including the name "NetBeans" and the
"" domain, to the Apache Foundation, along with other
artifacts, including the U.S. copyright registrations related to
NetBeans. The trademark and copyright transfers would be detailed in
separate documents.

== External Dependencies ==

NetBeans is a large project with multiple dependencies and some
changes may be needed during incubation to comply with Apache

Identifying which dependencies are core and non-core will be needed as
part of the process in meeting Apache requirements about third-party
dependencies. (L)GPL (and possibly other) based dependencies and
usages will need to be reviewed, and solved, as Apache does not allow
(L)GPL dependencies, although these concerns can be resolved during
incubation, and are not upfront blockers.

== Required Resources ==

 * Mailing Lists: dev, user, committs, and private
 * Wiki
 * Website
 * Source Control: Git
 * Issue Tracking
 * Release Infrastructure - Hudson/Jenkins, etc

Specific Infrastructure Requests

 * Migration of large existing Mercurial repository to Apache Git
 * Migration of internal Oracle release infrastructure to Apache infrastructure
 * Migration of plugin publication system,, to
Apache infrastructure
 * Migration of website and related content management system to
Apache infrastructure
 * Evaluation and identification of other NetBeans infrastructure to
be migrated to Apache infastructures

== Initial Committers ==

Below is the initial list of individual contributors, while more
individual contributors will be added during incubation.

ASF members with a specific interest in the project are welcome to
request being added to this list of initial committers.

After the project has been accepted and started in the incubator,
additional committers can join, as usual, based upon their merit in
the project.

 * James Gosling (Liquid Robotics)
 * Kirk Pepperdine (jClarity)
 * Martijn Verburg (jClarity)
 * Bruno Souza (SouJava)
 * Leonardo Loch Zanivan (SouJava)
 * Michel Graciano (SouJava)
 * Michael Nascimento Santos (Improving)
 * Anton Epple (Dukehoff)
 * Sven Reimers (Airbus Defense and Space)
 * Martin Klaehn (Airbus Defense and Space)
 * Floran Vogler (Airbus Defense and Space)
 * Jörg Michelberger (Airbus Defense and Sapce)
 * Norman Fomferra (European Space Agency)
 * Marco Peters (European Space Agency)
 * Tonio Fincke (European Space Agency)
 * Emmanuel Hugonnet (Red Hat)
 * Mark Stephens (IDR Solutions)
 * Georgia Ingham (IDR Solutions)
 * Mike Kelly (US DOD)
 * Emilian Bold (Joseki Bold SRL)
 * Timon Veenstra (Corizon BV)
 * Kendrik Veenstra (Corizon BV)
 * Francesco Perez Duran (Corizon BV)
 * Christian Stolz (Janitza)
 * Ernest Lotter (Institute of Mine Seismology)
 * Steve Millidge (Payara Services)
 * Andrew Pielage (Payara Services)
 * Johan Vos (Gluon)
 * Jose Pereda (Gluon)
 * Neil C. Smith (PRAXIS Live)
 * Valentin Buergel (Simtec Buergel AG)
 * Stephen Cumminger (Sonideft)
 * Shai Almog (Codename One)
 * Steve Hannah (Codename One)
 * Zoran Sevarac (University of Belgrade)
 * Henry Arousell (Björn Lundén Information AB)
 * Thomas Boqvist (Björn Lundén Information AB)
 * Jaroslav Tulach (Oracle)
 * Don Kretsch (Oracle)
 * Vladimir Voskresensky (Oracle)
 * Dmitry Zharkov (Oracle)
 * Liang Chen (Oracle)
 * Geertjan Wielenga (Oracle)
 * Tomas Zezula (Oracle)
 * Dusan Balek (Oracle)
 * Svatopluk Dedic (Oracle)
 * Tomas Hurka (Oracle)
 * Milutin Kristofic (Oracle)
 * Jiri Sedlacek (Oracle)
 * Miloslav Metelka (Oracle)
 * Petr Hejl (Oracle)
 * Tomas Stupka (Oracle)
 * Petr Pisl (Oracle)
 * Martin Entlicher (Oracle)
 * Tomas Mysik (Oracle)
 * Martin Balin (Oracle)
 * Libor Fischmeister (Oracle)
 * Petr Gebauer (Oracle)
 * Ondrej Vrabec (Oracle)
 * Jaroslav Havlin (Oracle)
 * Jiri Skrivanek (Oracle)
 * Jiri Prox (Oracle)
 * Jiri Kovalsky (Oracle)

== Sponsors ==

 * Bertrand Delacratez

 * Bertrand Delacratez
 * Emmanuel Lécharny
 * Ate Douma

Sponsoring Entity
 * The Apache Incubator

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