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From Greg Stein <>
Subject Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Accept Impala into the Apache Incubator
Date Wed, 02 Dec 2015 07:25:03 GMT
On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 8:53 PM, Jacques Nadeau <> wrote:

> It's great that Greg and the others who disagree cast their dissenting
> votes. That doesn't mean that we should throw out process. If the process
> is 3x+1 and more +1 than -1, this vote passes as Henry stated. Greg even
> stated (if I understand his statements correctly) that he was not trying to
> sink this vote but rather to express his dissent.

Yup, you captured this correctly.

> RTC versus CTR is clearly a religious debate. There are a large number of
> successful and vibrant Apache communities using each paradigm. I don't

"Apache communities" is (IMO) a very important point here. I believe that
Apache communities understand the nuances of peer respect, consensus, and
trust. *That* community could weigh the variables and decide which workflow
works best for their community. By definition, podling arrivals are not
accorded the same self-reliance, and the proposal even states, "fewer have
much experience with ASF-based software projects as contributors and
community members"

Thus, my else-thread suggestion of waiting for an "Apache community" to
form, and then making the decision to move from CTR to RTC.



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