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From Marvin Humphrey <>
Subject Re: Websites at
Date Tue, 01 Dec 2015 17:54:33 GMT
On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 1:44 AM, Rob Vesse <> wrote:
> I seem to remember that INFRA used to do redirects but decided to stop
> doing them because it made the transition to TLP easier for podlings post
> graduation because their "final" URL was active from as soon as they start
> (assuming they don't name change during incubation)

Right, at the link posted by Niall elsethread.  The implications of that
email snuck by me when it was posted -- it mentions DNS and email, but not
websites.  I guess I should have read it more closely.  In any case, if a
change in branding policy had been intended, that should have been made

Since nothing has changed about the branding policy, what we have is an
implementation issue, and we need to figure out what actions we will request
of Infra to remedy it.

> This does look to be at odds with the branding requirements but provided
> that the podling is following other requirements e.g. clear use of
> Incubating in the name, incubation disclaimer etc I don't see that the
> IPMC necessarily needs to continue enforcing the subdomain requirement?

We have 46 podlings honorably striving to become Apache projects, but they are
not yet Apache projects, they are "incubating".  If they don't like that
distinction, they should hurry up and graduate.

Measures which blur the distinction between podlings and TLPs and make life in
the Incubator too comfortable are counterproductive.  Incubation should be
rigorous and short.

Marvin Humphrey

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