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From Greg Stein <>
Subject Re: RTC vs CTR (was: Concerning Sentry...)
Date Tue, 17 Nov 2015 08:20:51 GMT
On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 1:53 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz <
> wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 5:25 AM, Ted Dunning <>
> wrote:
> > ...RTC can be framed as "I don't trust you to do things right"...
> Or also "I don't trust myself 100% to do things right here and would
> like systematic reviews of my commits".

People should be trusted to ask for help/review when necessary. CTR trusts
people to commit changes they feel are right, but it also trusts them to
stop and ask for a preliminary review when they feel/know they're deep into
the tricky code.

RTC never trusts people with the easy changes. It believes all changes are
equal, assumes all changes are beyond the abilities of individuals, and all
committers are incapable of self-reflection. That each and every change
must be scrutinized by others for approval.

Ted's phrase "I trust you to help me make things better" is not unique to
RTC. Both CTR and RTC have that "R" in them for review, to ensure the code
can always be improved.

If I join a CTR community, then I know that I can go around improving
comments, docstrings, and minor code cleanups. That is a solid contribution
that every project would love to have. If I join an RTC community, I'm not
trusted to do any of that. There is no other explanation. None of that has
to do with "complexity". It is simply control and exclusion of my
desire/interest to contribute. To keep the mantle of development within a
select set of people who decided to exert this tactic over their codebase.


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