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From Ralph Goers <>
Subject Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation
Date Mon, 16 Nov 2015 15:56:27 GMT
And I have to disagree with you Joe. To me, a mandatory RTC policy says “we don’t trust
anybody”. Sure, it doesn’t discriminate, but it is also a PITA. One project I mentored
uses RTC along with ReviewBoard and mandates that you cannot commit your own work and every
commit must be formally reviewed. I have found this process to be so onerous that I have never
committed any code to the project, even though I really would like to.  I find the pace of
this project to be fairly slow.  But it seems to fit within the corporate culture that most
of the committers seem to work in.

OTOH, I am involved in a project that uses CTR but where feature branches are frequently created
to allow others to review and improve significant new work before it is integrated. As a consequence,
new features are introduced at a much faster pace in this project.


> On Nov 11, 2015, at 11:16 AM, Joe Witt <> wrote:
> "Trust is the basis of a healthy community"
> -- For sure.
> "and RTC (via Jira or otherwise) just screams "we don't trust you. we
> must review all commits first.""
> -- I disagree.  RTC has merit independent of concerns of trust.  If
> trust issues are present in a community then any number of challenges
> will exist and all processes will suffer.  Keep in mind RTC applies to
> everyone (PMC, committer, contributor).  So it isn't about trust at
> all.  It is about community.
> Not wanting to sidetrack this thread but also didn't want that comment
> to go without a counter.
> Thanks
> Joe

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