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From Daniel Dekany <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Freemarker Incubation proposal
Date Wed, 03 Jun 2015 22:24:15 GMT
Wednesday, June 3, 2015, 5:29:40 PM, Ralph Goers wrote:

> As soon as it can be done. The question is, why would you want to
> wait?

I thought, maybe, after being voted in, but before actual incubation
starts, the legal guys at ASF start looking at the project. Or
something like that. Anyway, then I guess we just try to pile up as
many SGA-s as possible, and only then try voting, as it was suggested.

> The point is, you don’t want to get approval for the project
> and then have everyone lose interest because there is no code to work on.
> Ralph
>> On Jun 3, 2015, at 12:01 AM, Daniel Dekany <> wrote:
>> So then I suppose my question can be reduced to: After the voting has
>> concluded with positive result (for entering incubation), when must we
>> migrate the source code to ASF?
>> -- 
>> Thanks,
>> Daniel Dekany
>> Wednesday, June 3, 2015, 2:05:57 AM, Ralph Goers wrote:
>>> IMO, once the source code is migrated to the ASF you should not do
>>> any more releases outside the ASF.  I would attempt to clear up as
>>> many IP issues as you can before entering but I believe several
>>> projects have resolved their IP issues while in the incubator.  In
>>> the worst case some code may need to be rewritten.
>>> Ralph
>>>> On Jun 2, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Daniel Dekany <> wrote:
>>>> But before that... a question. Let's say the voting has a positive
>>>> result. Can we still do Freemarker releases outside ASF (with the
>>>> current owners and source code repository) after that? For how long?
>>>> My concern is that when we are already in the incubator, we can't
>>>> release from it as far as ASF finds that there are unsettled IP
>>>> issues. Like if someone finds out that an SGL is needed from X who we
>>>> haven't seen in the last 15 years, that can take a while, which is OK,
>>>> but until that I can't do releases (and in general I can't be sure
>>>> what will happen with the work committed). Is it possible to only
>>>> enter incubation when there are no known blockers that would make
>>>> releases impossible? Or how does it work?
>>>> -- 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Daniel Dekany
>>>> Thursday, May 28, 2015, 4:11:49 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Jacopo Cappellato
>>>>> <> wrote:
>>>>>> ...PS: who should start the vote?..
>>>>> In general that's the role of the podling's champion.
>>>>> -Bertrand

 Daniel Dekany

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