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From Daniel Dekany <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Freemarker Incubation proposal
Date Mon, 08 Jun 2015 19:11:12 GMT
A simple question regarding the SGA... at the bottom there's "List of
software and other intellectual property covered by this agreement:".
I wonder if we should have "Freemarker" under that, or something like:

    Freemarker (including the engine itself, also the Docgen and Site modules)

Because, the Freemarker project contains multiple projects
technically: Docgen (generates HTML from XDocBook), Site (generates
Web site from some XML-s), and the engine itself (freemarker.jar).
Only the last is released to the Maven Central Repo.

When people say Freemarker, they usually just mean the last artifact
(the engine). So I thought the SGA is ambiguous if we just say

 Daniel Dekany

Wednesday, June 3, 2015, 2:11:29 AM, John D. Ament wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 8:07 PM Ralph Goers
> <> wrote:
> IMO, once the source code is migrated to the ASF you should not do
> any more releases outside the ASF.  I would attempt to clear up as
> many IP issues as you can before entering but I believe several
> projects have resolved their IP issues while in the incubator.  In
> the worst case some code may need to be rewritten.
> Agreed, considering the contributor list on the code base is small
> (5 contributors) with the bulk of it from you, it shouldn't be an
> issue.  You'll want to check w/ your eventual mentors
> - Contributors/committers have ICLAs.
> - SGA passing ownership to the ASF
> - A thorough review of the code base validating things like
> headers, proper ownership are all transferred.
> It's one of the easier things to do, but typically neglected.
> John
> Ralph
>> On Jun 2, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Daniel Dekany <> wrote:
>> But before that... a question. Let's say the voting has a positive
>> result. Can we still do Freemarker releases outside ASF (with the
>> current owners and source code repository) after that? For how long?
>> My concern is that when we are already in the incubator, we can't
>> release from it as far as ASF finds that there are unsettled IP
>> issues. Like if someone finds out that an SGL is needed from X who we
>> haven't seen in the last 15 years, that can take a while, which is OK,
>> but until that I can't do releases (and in general I can't be sure
>> what will happen with the work committed). Is it possible to only
>> enter incubation when there are no known blockers that would make
>> releases impossible? Or how does it work?
>> --
>> Thanks,
>>  Daniel Dekany
>> Thursday, May 28, 2015, 4:11:49 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Jacopo Cappellato
>>> <> wrote:
>>>> ...PS: who should start the vote?..
>>> In general that's the role of the podling's champion.
>>> -Bertrand
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