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From Steve Loughran <>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Atlas for Data Governance on Hadoop
Date Thu, 16 Apr 2015 07:42:14 GMT

> On 16 Apr 2015, at 09:32, Seetharam Venkatesh <> wrote:
> @David, I have uploaded the source tar ball for your review at
> while I work on making the
> repository public.
> Thanks!


-how about creating your own personal repo, adding it to the list of repos for the project
and publishing it that way?

> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 7:39 PM, Ted Dunning <> wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Justin Erenkrantz <>
>> wrote:
>>> It's extremely hard to come to Apache when you have a vague idea and no
>>> code.
>>> The Incubator is simply too high a bar for folks who just want to play
>>> with an idea and aren't sure where it is heading.
>>> So, I wouldn't hold it against people - turn it on ourselves - how can
>>> we create a process to facilitate people who aren't ready yet?
>>> FWIW, my opinion from last night is that is exactly what GitHub is
>>> for.  (Apache Labs was that place at one time, but it's only for
>>> members - not external folks.)  Once you have that rough consensus and
>>> running code and have a fledgling community of stakeholders, then it's
>>> time to bring it to Apache via the Incubator.  To be fair, there were
>>> others who disagreed; but, the rough consensus (ha!) was that the
>>> Incubator hasn't yet cracked that model.
>> Well, the case of non-vague idea and little or no code is exemplified by
>> Apache Drill which has turned out pretty well.  Good releases, good code,
>> needs more diversity still.  But a good project that worked very well in
>> incubation.
>> Your end-point of vague idea is a different case and I agree with you
>> there.
> -- 
> Regards,
> Venkatesh
> “Perfection (in design) is achieved not when there is nothing more to add,
> but rather when there is nothing more to take away.”
> - Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

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