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From "John D. Ament" <johndam...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Should Sirona be monthly?
Date Mon, 23 Feb 2015 00:49:49 GMT
Do you need assistance from the other mentors on the project to keep it
going?  Anything the incubator can do to help you out?

John

On Sun Feb 22 2015 at 6:12:01 PM Olivier Lamy <olamy@apache.org> wrote:

> On 23 February 2015 at 03:07, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > On Sun Feb 22 2015 at 10:38:23 AM Marvin Humphrey <
> marvin@rectangular.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 3:44 AM, Olivier Lamy <olamy@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > > I don't see any comments here: http://wiki.apache.org/
> > > incubator/February2015
> > >
> > > I'm the one who categorized Sirona under "Report incomplete" in the
> > > "Summary
> > > of podling reports" section:
> > >
> > >   * Report incomplete
> > >
> > >       Sirona
> > >
> > > I honestly thought Sirona's report was a work in progress when I did
> that
> > > because several sections had been left blank.
> > >
> > > > So I wonder what sort of administrative stuff is missing?...
> > >
> > > It's not "administrative stuff" that's missing.  The problem is that
> > until
> > > Matt filed his Shepherd review, there was literally nothing in the
> report
> > > describing the state of the Sirona community.
> > >
> > > The following sections were left empty:
> > >
> > > *   `Three most important issues to address in the move towards
> > >     graduation:`
> > > *   `How has the community developed since the last report?`
> > > *   `When were the last committers or PMC members elected?`
> > >
> > > (The full report is pasted below my sig for reference.)
> > >
> > > The Board consistently follows up after TLPs who neglect to answer that
> > > last
> > > question.  If the Incubator teaches that such reports are acceptable, I
> > > don't
> > > think it's doing a very good job because such reports are unlikely to
> be
> > > acceptable to the Board.
> > >
> >
> > That's actually why I raised my question.  I had assumed the board would
> > have flagged Sirona as not having a complete report and expected it again
> > next month, yet I saw nothing mentioned in the board report (probably
> > because there was a high volume of missing reports, this one skirted by?)
> > about Sirona's not being accepted.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > However, when I flagged Sirona in the draft report review thread,
> nobody
> > > responded.  In the absence of IPMC consensus that Sirona's report was
> > > unacceptable, I opted to defer to the Sirona Mentors who signed off and
> > did
> > > not pursue the matter further.
> > >
> > > And that's where I think we leave things regarding the subject of this
> > > thread,
> > > "Should Sirona be monthly?": Sirona should not be required to report
> next
> > > month, in deference to its Mentors.
> > >
> >
> > And that's where I'm struggling a bit with Sirona.  Olivier's the active
> > guy on the project, PPMC and Mentor.  OpenHub and GitHub agree
> >
> > https://github.com/apache/sirona/graphs/contributors
> > https://www.openhub.net/p/sirona/contributors
> >
> > You can even see in Olivier's email to the dev alias that he considered
> the
> > report to be incomplete (only started).
> >
> >
> > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/sirona-dev/201502.mbox/%
> 3CCAPoyBqSRbOv6Y3pkQMqkCjzz3wOhqrV0yHrEyX4aNaP_FsvfEw%40mail.gmail.com%3E
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
>
> I missed to answer to my own email saying that's finished.
> Sorry I reckon I'm really bad on administrative papers things....
>
>
> Olivier
>
>
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Marvin Humphrey
> > >
> > > --------------------
> > > Sirona
> > >
> > > Monitoring Solution.
> > >
> > > Sirona has been incubating since 2013-10-15.
> > >
> > > Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
> > >
> > >   1.
> > >   2.
> > >   3.
> > >
> > > Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
> > > aware of?
> > >
> > >   None
> > >
> > > How has the community developed since the last report?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > How has the project developed since the last report?
> > >
> > >   Some refactoring of the UI.  A contributor made some development to
> > have
> > >   some features still working with java 1.5
> > >
> > > Date of last release:
> > >
> > >   2014-06-26
> > >
> > > When were the last committers or PMC members elected?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by:
> > >
> > >   [x](sirona) Olivier Lamy
> > >   [ ](sirona) Henri Gomez
> > >   [x](sirona) Jean-Baptiste Onofre
> > >   [ ](sirona) Tammo van Lessen
> > >   [ ](sirona) Mark Struberg
> > >
> > > Shepherd/Mentor notes:
> > >
> > >   Matthew B. Franklin (mfranklin):
> > >
> > >     Lot's of code is being committed to the project, but mostly by a
> > > couple of
> > >     developers.  There also does not appear to be much discussion on
> the
> > > list
> > >     in last period, likely  due to the low number of developers.
> > >
> > >     I recommend the podling focus on increasing the size and
> > participation
> > > of
> > >     the community as one of the issues to address prior to graduation.
> > >
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> >
>
>
>
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> Olivier Lamy
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