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From Greg Stein <>
Subject Re: Practical next steps for pTLP experiment
Date Tue, 24 Feb 2015 08:37:44 GMT
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 6:31 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) <> wrote:

> Hi Niclas,
> I'm in favor of the overall pTLP process. I don't
> agree with others that it hasn't been well specified yet. I

There is (yet) a singular page that defines the process. Roman has been
working on one. Your wiki page is coupled with other process/organizational

> think it's easy to invent things that haven't been
> done and to overlook what has been done (more than
> 1 wiki page, in Incubator-ville; an in ComDev now,
> thanks to Roman; 100s-1000s of emails over many years
> on the subject, etc.).

While agreed, and several Directors have been party to those discussions ...
the internal discussion on board@ has shown a lack of recognition/review of
all of that. This is not unexpected: that discussion occurred *here*. I
thought it was reasonable to assume our fellow Directors to be caught up on
that discussion, but that was presumptuous. ... The past years of discussion
must be distilled, rather than "oh, look in the archives".

> Continuing to play the "bring me a rock" game will
> lead to no progress.

Yeah :-(

> I don't have a ton of confidence for pTLP in the
> current board. I also fully invite the membership of
> the ASF to use this as a measuring stick for future
> board members. Ask your board member candidates during
> the next ASF member election to answer this question
> before you cast you VOTE and use it to help decide.

Agreed. Experimentation, rather than status quo.


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