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From Marvin Humphrey <>
Subject Re: Should Sirona be monthly?
Date Sun, 22 Feb 2015 15:37:32 GMT
On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 3:44 AM, Olivier Lamy <> wrote:
> I don't see any comments here:

I'm the one who categorized Sirona under "Report incomplete" in the "Summary
of podling reports" section:

  * Report incomplete


I honestly thought Sirona's report was a work in progress when I did that
because several sections had been left blank.

> So I wonder what sort of administrative stuff is missing?...

It's not "administrative stuff" that's missing.  The problem is that until
Matt filed his Shepherd review, there was literally nothing in the report
describing the state of the Sirona community.

The following sections were left empty:

*   `Three most important issues to address in the move towards
*   `How has the community developed since the last report?`
*   `When were the last committers or PMC members elected?`

(The full report is pasted below my sig for reference.)

The Board consistently follows up after TLPs who neglect to answer that last
question.  If the Incubator teaches that such reports are acceptable, I don't
think it's doing a very good job because such reports are unlikely to be
acceptable to the Board.

However, when I flagged Sirona in the draft report review thread, nobody
responded.  In the absence of IPMC consensus that Sirona's report was
unacceptable, I opted to defer to the Sirona Mentors who signed off and did
not pursue the matter further.

And that's where I think we leave things regarding the subject of this thread,
"Should Sirona be monthly?": Sirona should not be required to report next
month, in deference to its Mentors.

Marvin Humphrey


Monitoring Solution.

Sirona has been incubating since 2013-10-15.

Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:


Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
aware of?


How has the community developed since the last report?

How has the project developed since the last report?

  Some refactoring of the UI.  A contributor made some development to have
  some features still working with java 1.5

Date of last release:


When were the last committers or PMC members elected?


  [x](sirona) Olivier Lamy
  [ ](sirona) Henri Gomez
  [x](sirona) Jean-Baptiste Onofre
  [ ](sirona) Tammo van Lessen
  [ ](sirona) Mark Struberg

Shepherd/Mentor notes:

  Matthew B. Franklin (mfranklin):

    Lot's of code is being committed to the project, but mostly by a couple of
    developers.  There also does not appear to be much discussion on the list
    in last period, likely  due to the low number of developers.

    I recommend the podling focus on increasing the size and participation of
    the community as one of the issues to address prior to graduation.

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