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From Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling
Date Mon, 09 Feb 2015 01:06:25 GMT
FWIW: Cos and I were planning to finalize the retirement steps today.

Thanks,
Roman.

On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 5:01 AM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org> wrote:
> On Sun Feb 08 2015 at 7:57:28 AM Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> We need to report that NPanday is being retired.
>>
>>
> Yep, added a retired section.
>
> John
>
>
>> On Feb 8, 2015, at 4:50 AM, John D. Ament wrote:
>>
>> > On Sun Feb 08 2015 at 7:48:11 AM John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> So, at this point, is this resolved?  I may have missed the final
>> >> resolution summary.
>> >>
>> >>
>> > Nevermind, got thrown off in my search by a late vote.  I just retired
>> them
>> > from podlings.xml and will remove them from the board report shortly,
>> > unless someone feels having them on there will still help.
>> >
>> >
>> >> John
>> >>
>> >> On Wed Jan 21 2015 at 5:15:33 PM Roman Shaposhnik <rvs@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> This is a vote on recommending a retirement option
>> >>> for the NPanday poddling.
>> >>>
>> >>> It comes on the hills of the general consensus of
>> >>> the NPanday community and its mentors that
>> >>> retirement is the only viable path at this point:
>> >>>    http://markmail.org/thread/litmh5wmwbclrk6n
>> >>>    http://s.apache.org/Efn
>> >>>
>> >>> NPanday entered incubator on 13th of August 2010:
>> >>>   http://incubator.apache.org/projects/npanday.html
>> >>> Up until 2012 the poddling was doing reasonably well,
>> >>> producing two releases and adding mentors and
>> >>> committers. Starting from 2012 the community started
>> >>> to dwindle and no further releases were produced.
>> >>> Starting from 2014 the poddling really struggled to
>> >>> regain vitality despite of numerous attempts to help
>> >>> by Brett Porter and Konstantin Boudnik. The most
>> >>> visible attempt was in July/August 2014 and resulted in
>> >>> a spur of JIRA and ML activity, but couldn't be sustained
>> >>> without direct involvement of Brett and Konstantin:
>> >>>    https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2014
>> >>> Starting from September the poddling was back to
>> >>> the usual levels:
>> >>>    http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-dev/
>> >>>    http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-commits/
>> >>>    http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-users/
>> >>> while missing Incubator reports:
>> >>>    https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/November2014
>> >>>    https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2014
>> >>> and having absolutely 0 commits coming into the repository.
>> >>> It now appears that that all of the PPMC has been disengaged
>> >>> and the user community for the project is pretty much non existent.
>> >>>
>> >>> IPMC has been monitoring the situation all throughout 2014:
>> >>>   http://markmail.org/message/3sbwfpedosyqzqhn
>> >>>   http://markmail.org/message/c2fbokolyujki3gl
>> >>>   http://markmail.org/thread/3ttavmqnq5s6pe74
>> >>>   http://markmail.org/message/bxelz5ati2hofe4y
>> >>> and at this point it feels like the most production option would
>> >>> be to recommend retirement of the poddling. Should
>> >>> the VOTE pass, Konstantin and myself are volunteering
>> >>> to take care of the poddling retirement mechanics.
>> >>>
>> >>> Vote will run for at least 72 hours (to 1/26/14, noon PST).
>> >>>
>> >>> [ ] +1 Recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator.
>> >>> [ ] +/-0 Don't care, but...
>> >>> [ ] -1 Don't recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator
>> >>> because ...
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> Roman.
>> >>>
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