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From David Nalley <>
Subject Re: What is "The Apache Way"?
Date Thu, 08 Jan 2015 19:44:30 GMT
> Members should look to the board to enforce policy, not define it (Though Directors are
members and will be involved with the definition)

This disagrees with much that the Foundation has published. In example:
"The membership of the ASF elects the 9 member board to run the
foundation and to set and ensure policy."

And whether I agree or disagree with your statement, this perfectly
illustrates Marvin's point. Conflicting statements, that podlings see
on websites, and then here from mentors, IPMC members, or even
officers and directors make this incredibly convoluted for people who
don't 'understand' the Apache Way, and more importantly, it's effect
on a project community.

And this happens all of the time. I recently was involved in an email
conversation with a project that's considering coming to the
Incubator. Involved in the conversation were 4 members, 3 of whom are
officers, 1 of whom is a director, and we provided conflicting advice
as to what was 'required' of a project at the ASF on specific points
like bug trackers, mailing lists, etc. The reaction by folks from that
project seemed to be one of wonder, curious which one of us was
right?, Worried about the seeming inconsistency. I think that most of
the projects that come into the Incubator, want to do the 'right
thing'; we make that much more difficult by having such a variable
answer to 'the right thing'.


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