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From Rob Vesse <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Incubator exit criteria
Date Wed, 09 Jul 2014 08:48:16 GMT

On 09/07/2014 09:12, "Chris Douglas" <> wrote:

>On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 12:23 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <> wrote:
>> Again, why would code lose users? Remember we're talking
>> about a situation of no releases here. Presumably those
>> users who are comfortable building from the repo would
>> just keep doing so. And since there was no release,
>> what else is out there for us to worry about?
>IIRC there may be implications for licensing if someone is literally
>pulling code out of trunk and distributing it. Without a release, the
>PMC hasn't represented that the artifact is kosher. For release tags,
>this is true.

I assume Roman is talking about an external user not someone acting for
the PPMC here?

IANAL but my two cents:

Users always have the option of pulling from source code and building
whether we are talking about podlings or top level projects.  The ASF
makes it clear that source control does not constitute a release and so
does not have the legal assurances that users can expect from an official
ASF release.  However by virtue of being open source we provide the means
for users to do this if they so wish.

If people are choosing to use/redistribute code that they have taken from
our source control then they are assuming any legal risks, people doing
this likely have much more liberal licensing policies or don't care

If a PPMC member was pulling from source and distributing outside the ASF
then that would be much more murky as to who they are acting for and may
indeed have legal implications for the ASF


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