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From Alex Harui <>
Subject Re: Release Verification Checklist
Date Mon, 02 Dec 2013 04:44:37 GMT

On 12/1/13 4:47 PM, "Marvin Humphrey" <> wrote:

>On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Dave Fisher <> wrote:
>> One note I have is I don't think we should be teaching that some of
>> steps are "optional" when they are required.
>Don't get me wrong -- I would actually prefer to make each PPMC member do
>work for each item.  The main rationale behind making the checklist items
>"optional" is something else: to avoid adding yet more design pressure
>the checklist.  Making all items "required" means that we have to
>all possible edge cases in advance, lest we make it impossible to vote
>for a
>release which would otherwise pass but gets hung up on a technicality.
Just curious: how do you know someone didn't just copy-paste the form with
boxes already checked?  Can we not make a tool that performs these checks?
 IMO, make everything required.  Let the mentors or other IPMC members
grant exceptions if you hit edge cases.  This is just an experiment, not
new policy that will be in place forever, right?

FWIW, I would also drop the "all tests passed".  That would make it easier
to create a tool that checks everything else.  I'm pretty sure our mentors
never ran the tests.  The PPMC members are probably sufficiently invested
in making sure quality is sufficient, one way or another.  For Flex, we
didn't even have all tests donated to the repo for our first release.  I
ran the artifacts against the Adobe copy of the tests, but no non-Adobe
folks had such an opportunity.


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