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From Marvin Humphrey <>
Subject Re: Release Verification Checklist
Date Fri, 13 Dec 2013 07:54:08 GMT
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 8:56 PM, Dave Fisher <> wrote:

> Another rule is better than my straw man. Marvin really missed my point -
> which was 3 IPMC is the way it is done and I don't see a need to change.

I was fooled, yes.

Since there's no compromise that would secure your vote, I'll go with my best
judgment and require that the manifest be approved by a Mentor (without the
ASF Member requirement).  We could further relax it to
approval-by-an-IPMC-Member, but such an approval would be inferior in the same
way that a non-Mentor's freelance +1 is inferior under the current system.

> I LIKE this process in all aspects except this change in the 3 +1 from the
> IPMC rule. Can the VOTE separate the two experiments?


*   Ant likes the voting rule change, but is opposed to the checklist.
*   Dave likes the checklist but is opposed to the voting rule change.


There's no reason to have a VOTE on the checklist alone unless we want to make
it mandatory: podlings have to fill it out in order to release, but IPMC
members remain free to ignore it when they vote.  Such an initiative seems
unlikely to pass.

Dave, if we can't arrive at a consensus compromise, even for authorizing an
experiment, that's unfortunate -- but as with Ant, I'm grateful for our
give-and-take and I believe that the proposal is much improved for it.

Marvin Humphrey

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