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From ant elder <>
Subject Fwd: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards
Date Sun, 10 Nov 2013 19:05:39 GMT
Well ok but to help rule that one out lets see if we can hear this
from the horses mouth.

Hi Roy,

As usual over at the Incubator we're having discussion about how to
make things work better.

One problem is with the struggle that some podling releases have at
getting 3 binding votes from Incubator PMC members. One solution to
that could be to change the rules so that for podling releases only
one binding Incubator PMC vote is required as long as there are at
least 3 +1 votes on the release and more +1s than -1s.

Is this something that you would consider approving of?

Thanks for helping,


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From: Joseph Schaefer <>
Date: Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

Unlikely to get at least Roy’s approval because release
votes are expected to be a decision of the full committee,
not any one member of it.

On Nov 10, 2013, at 10:29 AM, Alan D. Cabrera <> wrote:

> On Nov 10, 2013, at 1:04 AM, ant elder <> wrote:
>> How about simply changing the rules for Incubator releases so that
>> they don't require at least three binding votes, but instead make it
>> at least three votes only one of which must be binding. That would
>> mean there would still be the element of oversight that a mentor vote
>> gives but avoids all the problems with not having three mentors. I'm
>> sure the board would grant the Incubator authority to implement that
>> change.
> The board has charged us to vet the podlings and their releases.  What process is used
is up to us.
> I would prefer a variant of your proposal.  The first release needs three mentor/IPMC
votes.  Subsequent releases only require one mentor/IPMC vote.
> Regards,
> Alan
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