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From Marvin Humphrey <>
Subject Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards
Date Sun, 17 Nov 2013 19:18:06 GMT
On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Alex Harui <> wrote:

> 1) I think there is more to PPMC membership than just voting on releases.

I'm sure that everyone agrees on this point 100%.  Everything that Benson had
to say a couple messages back about PMC membership[1] also applies to PPMC

Nevertheless, while podlings are in the Incubator, their most pressing needs
are for contributions in the areas of community development and IP
stewardship.  It is appropriate to emphasize those criteria even while voting
in new PPMC members for a variety of reasons.

> 2) I thought the main thrust of this thread is about what to do when
>    mentors get too busy.

I don't see it that way.  The point is this:

    The Incubator has a fundamental structural flaw: it lacks a mechanism to
    reward merit earned by individual podling contributors.

Because the current system for approving incubating releases relies on IPMC
votes rather than podling contributor votes, it conflicts with our belief in
the imperative of meritocratic self-governance.  The best solution will be one
that brings us back into alignment with our principles.

IP stewardship is not something that happens only during IP clearance, only in
preparation for the first incubating release, or only at punctuated intervals
thereafter in preparation for subsequent releases.  It is an ongoing process
which happens with _every commit_.

The Incubator's priority should be (per the title of this thread) to cultivate
outstanding IP stewards to watch over projects -- commit by commit -- both
during incubation and after graduation, for the lifetime of the project.  The
only people with the motivation to serve in that capacity are project

Correct the Incubator's structural flaw and you'll also solve the acute
problem of "what to do when mentors get too busy".

Marvin Humphrey


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