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From Tammo van Lessen <tvanles...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Date Sun, 06 Oct 2013 22:59:53 GMT
+1 for Sirona


On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Ashish <paliwalashish@gmail.com> wrote:

> +1, sounds good
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 4:31 AM, Olivier Lamy <olamy@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > So Apache Merlin sounds good to me.
> > Any objections?
> >
> > On 25 September 2013 23:47, Christian Grobmeier <grobmeier@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Nechtan sounds cool also. Please note, in the german wikipedia its
> > > translated with "The tremendousness". This is not noted on the english
> > > wikipedia. After reading wikipedia I am still not sure what Nechtan
> > stands
> > > for. But I like its sound.
> > >
> > > I just found "Sirona", goddess of healing. Because monitoring is
> > > "identifying the sickness before its getting worse". However, Sirona is
> > used
> > > by companies related to healing (aka dental works).
> > >
> > > What I found interesting is this page claims Merlin being a god:
> > > http://wicca.com/celtic/wicca/celtic.htm
> > > of protecting, counseling, crystal reading and so.
> > >
> > > A few projects use Merlin, but all are very small ant not related to
> > > monitoring.
> > > There is a project management software called marlin:
> > > http://www.projectwizards.net/de/merlin/
> > >
> > > I believe we currently have:
> > >
> > > Apache Leitstand
> > > Apache Nechtan
> > > Apache Merlin
> > > Apache Sirona
> > > Apache Heimdall
> > > Apache Dagr
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 25 Sep 2013, at 15:03, Stephen Connolly wrote:
> > >
> > >> Why not try Celtic mythology.... I was thinking "Apache Nechtan" due
> to
> > >> the
> > >> association with access to knowledge and floods... but heck I am not
> > good
> > >> on my Irish mythology and the Norse ones always sounded way cooler
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 25 September 2013 13:23, Christian Grobmeier <grobmeier@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I also see thor is being used by infra:
> > >>> status.apache.org
> > >>>
> > >>> (mentioning, because it has been proposed as name too).
> > >>>
> > >>> However, it's not so bad. I actually mixed up Baldur with Heimdall,
> who
> > >>> is
> > >>> the actual "protector" of Bifröst. Baldur was more known because he
> was
> > >>> able to return from Hel (sounds like a good name for a server ;-)
> > >>> A quick crosscheck told me Heimdall is not used that often.
> > >>>
> > >>> For those who were concerned about using nordic godnames: Heimdall
> was
> > >>> named as the "father of all humans".
> > >>>
> > >>> He was also known for his horn Gjallarhorn which he blew when danger
> > >>> appeared. Most notable he blew that horn when Ragnarökr (the end of
> our
> > >>> time and the fall of the gods) starts.
> > >>>
> > >>> I imagine the sound of a horn when critical notification of the tool
> > >>> happens ;-)
> > >>>
> > >>> Another idea i just had was "Dagr". It old norsk for "Day". In old
> > myths
> > >>> Dagr is the son of night and he rides his horse Skinfaxi through
> > heaven.
> > >>> The crest of the horse lights the earth with golden shimmer. I
> imagine
> > >>> Apache Dagr to shed light on the dark corners of our applications.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Heck, when I was young i read a lot about northern mythology. Its so
> > >>> poetic. I should spend some time to read again.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On 25 Sep 2013, at 10:19, Daniel Gruno wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> On 09/25/2013 09:21 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Baldr is fine with me, my only concern is the similarity to
Apache
> > >>>>> Buildr.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Just a heads up from infra; baldr.apache.org is already very much
a
> > >>>> thing, and has been for more than five years. If it can be avoided,
> > we'd
> > >>>> really appreciate it if we can keep the name Baldr for our
> > >>>> infrastructure.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> With regards,
> > >>>> Daniel.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Tammo
> > >>>>> Am 25.09.2013 01:18 schrieb "Olivier Lamy" <olamy@apache.org>:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> So what about Baldr?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> BTW we can start incubation using Monitoring then change
the name
> > for
> > >>>>>> TLP?
> > >>>>>> WDYT?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On 21 September 2013 06:30, Christian Grobmeier <
> > grobmeier@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I would like to throw in this document:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/**foundation/marks/naming.html<
> > http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> We should make a few tests already before we start
the process
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>> officially.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> here is the current list, i felt so free to add a few
comments
> > >>>>>>> already.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> - CoMon
> > >>>>>>> There is "Common Software", a company. We might have
a trademarks
> > >>>>>>> problem because of similarity.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> - Leitstand
> > >>>>>>> Not sure if I like the sound :-), but did not find
any
> repositories
> > >>>>>>> at
> > >>>>>>> github. From the meaning, a Leitstand is usually something
were
> you
> > >>>>>>> can
> > >>>>>>> adjust things (more power, less steam and so on). Monitoring
> would
> > be
> > >>>>>>> only a part of it. But on the other hand, it expresses
things
> well
> > >>>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>> it is a unused word so far.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> - Thor
> > >>>>>>> Great name, great god, but unfortunately a lot of people
use that
> > >>>>>>> name
> > >>>>>>> for their code :-(
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> - Balder / Baldur, also possible: Baldr
> > >>>>>>> I haven't see a lot with that name, but we need to
check this
> more
> > in
> > >>>>>>> detail.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> From that perspective, Leitstand would be the best
catch from a
> > >>>>>>> unique
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> point of view. I like Baldr very much from that meaning.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Lets see if there are more names the next days.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau schrieb:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Why not "CoMon"? Remind commons monitoring, that's
fun and
> closer
> > to
> > >>>>>>>> english so easier to propagate IMO.
> > >>>>>>>> Le 20 sept. 2013 12:59, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré"
<jb@nanthrax.net
> >
> > a
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> écrit :
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I like the "Apache Leitstand" name.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Regards
> > >>>>>>>>> JB
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On 09/20/2013 09:51 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> So if German is en vogue already, I'd propose
"Apache
> Leitstand"
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> [1],
> > >>>>>>>>>> which
> > >>>>>>>>>> means "control room". I think it would
make also a nice name
> > when
> > >>>>>>>>>> pronounced in English. This of course only
works if the GUI is
> > an
> > >>>>>>>>>> important
> > >>>>>>>>>> piece of the project, which is the case
if I understood
> > correctly.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> > >>>>>>>>>> Tammo
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > >>>>>>>>>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/****Leitstand<
> > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand>
> > >>>>>>>>>> <
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand<
> > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leitstand>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Olivier
Lamy <
> olamy@apache.org
> > >
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> So It looks we have more interested folks.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> But before starting the vote I'd like
to find an other name
> for
> > >>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>> project.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Someone proposed "Baldur" or "Balder"
(note, It's a popular
> > >>>>>>>>>>> germanic
> > >>>>>>>>>>> god). So as a French guy this proposition
looks to be rude
> for
> > me
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> :-).
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> More seriously, this name doesn't hurt me.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> If any other propositions, it's time
to speak.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
> > >>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 16 September 2013 08:25, Tammo van
Lessen
> > >>>>>>>>>>> <tvanlessen@gmail.com
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Am 15.09.2013 15:35 schrieb "Romain
Manni-Bucau" <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> rmannibucau@gmail.com
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> :
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Angular is great but i hope
well keep extensibility
> possible
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> without
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> js.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> In
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> all case well get at least a thread
on it to discuss about
> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> stack we
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> want and well use ;)
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to that discussion
;) I'd prefer
> progressive
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> enhancement
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> over SPAs in this context as well. Or even http://roca-style.org
> .
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Tammo
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Olivier Lamy
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
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