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From Joseph Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com>
Subject Re: Apache project bylaws
Date Fri, 04 Oct 2013 21:19:26 GMT
Really, Greg? Can't you tell you're not using the same
language I am, but I'm using the actual documentation?
Please see

http://www.apache.org/foundation/glossary#ConsensusApproval

and see how it jives with what you are saying.  Personnel
votes are always subject to veto, even committership, when
we're talking about the httpd project.

On Oct 4, 2013, at 3:47 PM, Greg Stein <gstein@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Oct 3, 2013 12:52 PM, "Joseph Schaefer" <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> ...
>> e.g. how to vote properly
>> on personnel issues, and that should entirely suffice. Even Greg
>> doesn't seem to know what consensus voting means in this context,
> 
> Really, Joe? Why did you throw that in? I know what consensus voting is. I
> also know some PMCs allow vetoes when adding new members. That was the
> point of my prior email: you are right that committership is done by
> consensus across the ASF, but that doesn't strictly hold for PMC
> membership. I think Roy phrased it once as "I am allowed to veto/refuse to
> work with that person. They are free to copy the codebase and establish a
> community of people willing to work with that person."
> 
> Cheers,
> -g


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