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From "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] HCatalog to Graduate and become part of Apache Hive
Date Wed, 13 Feb 2013 02:49:20 GMT
Classifying this as a procedural vote gives the easy out of majority rule.

It is the IPMC's recommendation to the board that the board then evaluates
to become a TLP or not. Based on Benson's later email he is shucking all
of that to the board. Benson, I would hope you consider -1s to be VETO in
this case, or at the very least, noting that in your report should you
still bull ahead and recommend it. BTW for everyone's benefit, go look up
the # of times that people -1 graduations. It's VERY rare, so I hope this
an indication that there is something seriously up here. I have nothing
against Hive or HCatalog -- I simply am trying to intimate this will be
trouble down the road.

In the end, yes, it's the board, but it's on the recommendation of the
IPMC. It would be pretty lame if  the IPMC made the recommendation to
create HCatalog as a part of Hive per the requested method and they didn't
mention the 2 objections (mine which I strongly consider a VETO) and Chris
D.'s -0. 


On 2/12/13 5:14 PM, "Alan Gates" <> wrote:

>So I'm not clear what the next step is here.  The 72 hours have passed,
>we have 5 +1 votes, 2 -1 votes, and a -0.
>Based on this page this
>appears to be a procedural vote so it just requires a majority.
>Are we done or is it traditional to allow more time for the vote when the
>issue is contentious?
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