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From "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] Curator for the Apache Incubator
Date Tue, 26 Feb 2013 21:17:47 GMT
Hi Luciano,

On 2/26/13 12:03 PM, "Luciano Resende" <> wrote:

>+1, We don't need to discuss exit criteria before entering incubation.

Actually we do and I can. Else I'm pretty useless on the IPMC.

I just went through an experience where my objection/VOTE didn't really
mean anything in a situation that I didn't think was correct (see
HCatalog/Hive). I will be darned sure to discuss exit criteria now as I
wish I would have paid attention and done so then, would have saved hassle
all around.

>And if the Zookeeper PMC wants to adopt Curator as part of the
>Zookeeper project (see distinction from sub-project language, which is
>what the Board does not favor),
>they can work with the community and
>do it.... 

Define "working with the community".

My definition of that doesn't include entering the Incubator.

My definition of that means, Pat or someone else on the ZK PMC starts
getting Curator patches and/or committing them and Jordan or Jay become
Committers/PMC members on ZK because of those contributions (and have
their ICLAs on file, etc.)

>Having said that, the exit criteria should really be an
>option instead of being dictated.

I'm questioning "graduation" to an existing TLP (and not as a new one) as
a valid exit criteria of the Incubator. I don't think it makes sense.


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