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From Luciano Resende <>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] Curator for the Apache Incubator
Date Tue, 26 Feb 2013 23:14:16 GMT
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
<> wrote:
> Hi Luciano,
> On 2/26/13 12:03 PM, "Luciano Resende" <> wrote:
>>+1, We don't need to discuss exit criteria before entering incubation.
> Actually we do and I can. Else I'm pretty useless on the IPMC.
> I just went through an experience where my objection/VOTE didn't really
> mean anything in a situation that I didn't think was correct (see
> HCatalog/Hive). I will be darned sure to discuss exit criteria now as I
> wish I would have paid attention and done so then, would have saved hassle
> all around.
>>And if the Zookeeper PMC wants to adopt Curator as part of the
>>Zookeeper project (see distinction from sub-project language, which is
>>what the Board does not favor),
>>they can work with the community and
>>do it....
> Define "working with the community".
> My definition of that doesn't include entering the Incubator.
> My definition of that means, Pat or someone else on the ZK PMC starts
> getting Curator patches and/or committing them and Jordan or Jay become
> Committers/PMC members on ZK because of those contributions (and have
> their ICLAs on file, etc.)

Yes, basically this (probably Netflix still need to follow some
processes to donate name + existing large amount of code)... But,
although I haven't checked the names on this thread against Zookeeper
PMC list, I haven't seen anyone jumping on the thread and suggesting
that Zookeeper PMC is open to this direction.

>>Having said that, the exit criteria should really be an
>>option instead of being dictated.
> I'm questioning "graduation" to an existing TLP (and not as a new one) as
> a valid exit criteria of the Incubator. I don't think it makes sense.

Here, I'm basically saying that, if Zookeeper community does not want
to "adopt" curator now, this should not become a barrier for the
Curator project to enter incubator, as Greg suggested with his -1
earlier in this thread.

Luciano Resende

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