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From Ross Gardler <>
Subject RE: [PROPOSAL] Tez to join Apache Incubator
Date Tue, 19 Feb 2013 16:54:26 GMT
Yeah, graduation is the key point. I suspect the confusion lay in another
recent proposal in which a concern was voiced about too many people from
one company *and* all mentors being from the same company - that was an
unusual case.

That being said, I’m not sure that I agree with “the project would be
unable to graduate with just this list of committers”. What a project needs
to do in order to graduate is demonstrate that it is operating in a
meritocratic way.

That communities can be non-meritocratic with 10 people all from the same
company as well as with 10 people all from different companies. There are
no statistics that say a podling can or can’t graduate, only behaviours.


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 *From:* Ted Dunning <>
*Sent:* 19 February 2013 16:13
*To:* Ross Gardler <>
*Subject:* Re: [PROPOSAL] Tez to join Apache Incubator

Sorry... I was clear on the need for real diversity on graduation, but was
unclear on the need for diversity at the start.

And, of course, the project would be unable to graduate with just this list
of committers.  But that is really just what you said in the first
sentence.  Incubation is the time when the project will need to demonstrate
that it is more than just a one company (plus a few) project.

On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 2:51 AM, Ross Gardler <>wrote:

If the podling doesn’t respect this then it won’t graduate. I suspect
everyone on that committer list knows this very well.

Do you have any reason to believe the project will not be able to graduate
with this list of committers?

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