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From Benson Margulies <>
Subject Re: Anticipating my reign of terror -- new idea for December
Date Mon, 05 Nov 2012 12:14:30 GMT
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 4:17 AM, Jukka Zitting <>wrote:

> Hi,
> On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 11:29 PM, Benson Margulies <>
> wrote:
> > At the bottom of the template for each podling's report, I'd like to
> have a
> > space for each of the mentors, every month, to reaffirm his or her
> > involvement in the podling. Thus, instead of (at most) one mentor signing
> > off on the report, itself, we'd get a reading on how many mentors are in
> > the game. If the number were less than 3 -- and -- especially, if it were
> > less than one, we'd be alerted and could make it a priority to find
> > replacements.
> That last bit may be a bit troublesome.
> I did something similar earlier in the summer when I identified a
> number of inactive mentors. Back then the only followup I could come
> up with was to update the Incubator records and to ask for volunteers
> to step in. Unfortunately it has been quite difficult to get people to
> commit themselves to mentoring a project that may already be in a bit
> of a trouble (existing mentors often start to loose interest when
> incubation time grows).
> Coming up with the shepherd model has been my attempt to answer that
> problem. If we can't find enough active mentors for a podling, then at
> least the IPMC should be able to collectively provide some level of
> help and feedback to keep a podling moving forward (or to gracefully
> shut it down).
> So you're right when you say that the shepherd model was created to
> compensate for a problem and ideally shouldn't be needed. However, the
> problem here isn't identifying inactive mentors (as seen earlier, we
> already have everything we need for that) but rather how to replace
> them. So far, apart from the shepherd model, we haven't seen too many
> ideas on how to solve or at least partially address that problem.

Fair enough.

Reading all the remarks so far, I glean:

1. A number of people think that all mentors should have been signing all
reports all along, so that changing the template as part of clarifying this
is not a big deal.

2. We need the shepherds to compensate for mentor shortages in addition to
discovering those.

3. Some folks continue to have ideas for structural changes to the IPMC.
I'd encourage new threads to explore those ideas.

> BR,
> Jukka Zitting
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