incubator-general mailing list archives

Site index · List index
Message view « Date » · « Thread »
Top « Date » · « Thread »
From Alan Cabrera <>
Subject Re: Anticipating my reign of terror -- new idea for December
Date Mon, 05 Nov 2012 00:15:43 GMT

I like the idea.  We'll obviously need to update our docs.


On Nov 4, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:

> acting as a mentor that was never my understanding. if the result of
> this thread is to clarify this point, fine.
> On Nov 4, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Ross Gardler <> wrote:
>> My understanding of mentor sign off is that all active mentors sign off,
>> not just one. Lack of sign off means the mentor has been busy elsewhere for
>> that quarter and feels unqualified to signoff.
>> So,whilst looking for absent mentors is good I'd suggest we already have a
>> process in place and thus dont need more process. We simply, as an IPMC,
>> need to use the existing process as (at least I feel) it was intended.
>> Ross
>> Sent from my tablet
>> On Nov 4, 2012 10:30 PM, "Benson Margulies" <> wrote:
>>> I want to thank all of you for the vote(s) of confidence in recommending me
>>> as the IPMC chair. While it's always possible that the Board will decline
>>> the suggestion, it doesn't seem too terribly presumptuous to start looking
>>> ahead.
>>> My goal is to continue along the path blazed by Jukka, and then, like him,
>>> hand over. So, set your egg-timers for a bit more than a year, and think,
>>> please, about stepping up.
>>> I think that the shepherd system has worked well. At the same time, I think
>>> that it was invented to compensate for a problem, and that we could make
>>> additional progress toward resolving that problem.
>>> Why do we have shepherds? Because we have had mentors who have found it
>>> impractical to exercise detailed supervision on the podlings. Our job as an
>>> entire PMC is to supervise the podlings. It seems logical to me that the
>>> mentors of each podling would provide that supervision. Of course, things
>>> happen. Shepherds have been helping to detect holes and compensate for
>>> those things.
>>> With this idea in mind, for December, I do not want to eliminate shepherds.
>>> But I want to float a proposal that might, over time, help us stop needing
>>> them.
>>> At the bottom of the template for each podling's report, I'd like to have a
>>> space for each of the mentors, every month, to reaffirm his or her
>>> involvement in the podling. Thus, instead of (at most) one mentor signing
>>> off on the report, itself, we'd get a reading on how many mentors are in
>>> the game. If the number were less than 3 -- and -- especially, if it were
>>> less than one, we'd be alerted and could make it a priority to find
>>> replacements.
>>> What do you think?
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> For additional commands, e-mail:

To unsubscribe, e-mail:
For additional commands, e-mail:

View raw message