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From Mohammad Nour El-Din <>
Subject Re: Incubator release task force
Date Thu, 26 Jul 2012 19:26:01 GMT
Hi Gary...

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Gary Martin <>wrote:

> As someone who is currently attempting to go through their first release,
> I am not really in the category of someone who could be in such a
> taskforce. However, I am very interested in seeing an improvement in the
> release documentation. I would certainly consider looking back over my
> recent experience to potentially offer suggestions for updating the
> documentation.
> It might not be a task that other first time release managers would want
> to add to their workload but, if this kind of contribution is seen as
> valuable, I would hope that it would not hurt to ask.

Actually I believe you added another aspect that might not be covered by
what Jukka suggested, which is people consuming information from such
documentation and their feedback how much it is comprehensible and
readable, so for sure such feedback would be great.

Thanks for your suggestions :)

> Cheers,
>     Gary
> On 07/26/2012 03:10 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
>> Hi,
>> The Incubator ships about half a dozen releases each month on average,
>> but our release process is notoriously lengthy, fraught with problems,
>> and badly documented. If this was any other project, we'd have had a
>> well-oiled release process in place already years ago.
>> Much of our extra release overhead can of course be attributed to the
>> high release manager turnaround (ideally nobody would make more than
>> one or at most a few incubating releases) and the different
>> requirements (source layout, build process, packaging style,
>> distribution channels, etc.) of different podlings. However, there's
>> much that we could do that so far hasn't been done or has been
>> sidetracked. For example, our current release guide [1] is the result
>> of quite a bit of work, but without a clear vision accompanied with a
>> process of incremental improvements it's become a mess that few people
>> read, let alone understand.
>> I'd like to start fixing this by forming a "release task force" of a
>> handful of volunteers who are ready to invest an hour or two per week
>> to work on a) helping podlings get their releases out, b) migrating
>> /dist/incubator to svnpubsub by the end of this year as requested by
>> infra, c) improving related documentation, and d) proposing updates to
>> the Incubator release policy if needed to streamline the process. In
>> concrete terms I'd like the task force to 1) be the first port of call
>> for podlings who're failing to get enough +1s from their mentors and
>> 2) to contribute a short updates (one sentence to one paragraph) on
>> their progress for inclusion in the monthly Incubator board reports.
>> Anyone interested?
>> [1]**guides/releasemanagement.html<>
>> BR,
>> Jukka Zitting
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- Mohammad Nour
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