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From "Alan D. Cabrera" <>
Subject Re: Board will be proposing a new TLP
Date Mon, 02 Jul 2012 04:44:10 GMT

On Jun 30, 2012, at 5:23 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:

> For those not following board@, the board is proposing the creation
> of a new TLP (tentatively called Apache Steve) which will serve as
> the project behind our STV and voting tools.
> The impetus behind this was when I suggested to the OpenStack
> people to use STV for their voting system, which kind of re-kicked
> the idea in my head that our voting tools were too good to not
> provide as releasable code to the world at large.
> Since all code was developed w/i the ASF, by ASF people, and
> is under the ALv2 (either implied/confirmed by the authors or
> explicit in the code itself), there is some debate on whether
> or not Incubation is even required... The board would like to
> recommend to the Incubator that the board simply proceed with
> the creation of this project at the next board meeting.

While I agree that it does not make sense to vet the initial set of project members and I'm
sure that the code provenance is clean, I had always thought that a big part of the incubation
process was to make sure that there's a vibrant community behind it.  I feel that I as a mentor
I am placed in an awkward place as I put pressure on those podlings that do not have much
community activity and now a bunch of board members expedite their project to a TLP.

I hope that someone can help me understand the current thinking about the vibrant community
aspect that seems to be a requirement for incubation/TLP admission.

With that said, I am against accelerating this project directly into a TLP.


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